Tractor or Truck for plowing?

   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #31  
Piston,

Not at all, and not all side by sides are equal in this task area. I make specific mention of the John Deere and the Kubota, for good reason. I think they are the best in this area. I have owned a Polaris Ranger. I really liked it (it was the 800-pretty fun) but in no way shape or form would it plow remotely as well as my current Gator XUV. The RTV is like a truck with heated cab, etc. My John Deere has an available cab and heater, but I do not mind being outside so I just have installed the full front windshield with wiper. If we get much more snow I am going to invest in the cab setup.

I would say I interjected this opinion into the mix to provide an alternative for discussion. When these truck v. tractor plowing threads pop up, it is interesting to note that there now is an effective third option, the UTV. There are enough big name plow companies out there like Boss and Meyer who are making plows for these machines that they apparently realize the same potential of these vehicles. I totally agree a pickup mounted plow is the best choice for wide open areas that are flat and fast, none of which I have here. I do plow large volume though; including about three miles of service road to my house (interestingly with two areas so steep our plow guy with his Dodge 3500 will not plow it). Tractors plow OK but not nearly as fast as a high-end UTV like I mention and I have used both (well, maybe a 9620 John Deere would plow faster but it also would not fit on most of what I do). The advantage of my XUV UTV is that it can plow our service roads as fast or faster than a truck can, it can plow steep drives and side roads that one would not even attempt with a truck mounted plow, it can get into areas not accessible by truck and plow sidewalks, parking lots, alleyways and areas too tight or delicate to plow by truck. Most times it gets to the pavement when plowing and does so for a fraction of the fuel cost. In between jobs, I just drive it around and when the weather and roads are really bad, my Gator with a 45 MPH top speed will get to site quicker than a truck. I think we all like what we have to plow, and I would not have any interest in talking someone out of his truck-mounted plow for a UTV mounted one, but I can see having used a UTV plow set up extensively that such a machine would make a nice addition to a plow operation. I cannot tell you the number of times I have heard chuckles from those folks looking for a plow set up alternative to their tractors when I tell them to look at a UTV, only to see them come back amazed at what these machines will do with snow.

John M
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #32  
I used to plow our road with my L2250 with rear blade and FEL to push it off the side.

Then we got this:
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Of course, this is for commercial plowing, but what a difference! I can plow that road in 10 minutes where it used to take an hour. And I'm nice and warm and dry.
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing?
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#33  
Nice Setup :thumbsup:
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #34  
I used to plow with the tractor, slow to plow, slow to and from the drives and barns that needed cleaning up, great for pushing back bankings. No cab on our tractors though, so that got old after a while. Used to plow snow with the pu back in the days when I worked for a excavation company, but hadn't had a plow on my 4wd pu for awhile. Bit the bullet and added one. Wouldn't go back to the tractor unless it had a cab. Maybe if I needed a blower I would, but the truck does a fine job during the storm.

It's real easy to break a truck plowing. It's also real easy to NOT break a truck plowing. I don't beat it up, I'll make a pass through everything when it gets 10-12 inches deep. Never had a plow related problem except maybe u-joints. Can't say for sure the plowing caused that, but it it did, so what? Plowing works a truck, yes, but that's what a truck is for. If you keep your truck in the garage and only take it out when the sun is shining and never put a load in it it'll last forever - but that's not why I have a truck.

I plow with the truck while it's storming and/or night time, if the banks need to be moved back I'll do it later when the sun is shining. I like my heat and the radio and my coffee. And I like plowing in a t-shirt. Truck for me, thanks... ;)
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #37  
Yea, but for the cost of ONE of those, you could buy AT LEAST 8 brand new plow trucks.

Will that out work 8 trucks??? And hows the manuverabillity:laughing:

I would say closer to the price of 4.

It would easily out work 8 trucks, with ONE man. Maneuverability would be just as good as an extended/crew cab truck.
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #38  
I would say closer to the price of 4.

It would easily out work 8 trucks, with ONE man. Maneuverability would be just as good as an extended/crew cab truck.

Well, how much would you figure that set-up to be??

I am figuring about $30k per NEW plow truck. That is about what they cost for just a basic stripped down 3/4 ton truck/plow combo.

And by manuveribility I am meaning the ability to get into tight spots. Like back-dragging between a couple of parked cars. That 14-16' box just wouldn't fit.
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #39  
I will also add that two trucks with wings can push almost as much snow as that 1 push box on that tractor. Provided the operators are experienced.

We had an opportunity to do so thursday night into yesterday. Was out for 14 hours plowing some of the Columbus schools.

Two trucks with wings, angle the blades toward eachother, and lock wings. It is like a big 15' V-plow. Very nice when in a lot that requires the snow to be moved all the way to one end. Windrow everything into big runs and then lock plows and make a big push. Then windrow the trail-offs back up and repete.

Two plows plowing in conjuction like this can easily moove 4-5 times more snow than just a single truck with a V-plow or winged plow. We do it quite often. And it's a lot of fun:thumbsup: Just dont do it with a rookie. Cause it is easy for one truck to loose traction and slide into eachother.
 
   / Tractor or Truck for plowing? #40  
As to auto transmissions on pickups and plowing, one idea explained to me was that they are damaged when the driver shifts from forward to reverse without giving the truck time to come to a stop. According to this person, that causes very high pressures inside the auto trans.

I have no idea, but if that's so it could explain why some go through a transmission in a couple years and others don't ever need a rebuild.
Dave.
 

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