MF being built in the USA

[Duffster]

That is a current AGCO plant if I am not mistaken.

 

[jlsmith]

That is a current AGCO plant if I am not mistaken.

Yes you are right. They will do some modifications to it and start rolling out the big tractors. The bad new is Agco will no longer be making the Agco tractor.

 

[Scooby074]

Yes you are right. They will do some modifications to it and start rolling out the big tractors. The bad new is Agco will no longer be making the Agco tractor.

I thought that plant was a Challanger plant, along with the RoGators and Spra-coupes etc.? Ill assume the AGCO heavy tractor lline was there as well?

Were the larger "AGCO"'s a rebrand of another agco brand (say that 10x fast:laughing?

 

[ff1221]

The Agco line is disappearing with more emphasis going into MF, Challenger and Fendt.

 

[jlsmith]

Were the larger "AGCO"'s a rebrand of another agco brand (say that 10x fast:laughing?

Agco was its own brand kinda. The MF and Agco were pretty much the same tractor except or color and model number (for the most part)I just dont know if it was MF or Agco with the original design.

The Agco line is disappearing with more emphasis going into MF, Challenger and Fendt.

This is true.:thumbsup:

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

Agco was its own brand kinda. The MF and Agco were pretty much the same tractor except or color and model number (for the most part)I just dont know if it was MF or Agco with the original design.



This is true.:thumbsup:

The Massey is an Agco design. They are using a Sisu diesel which is owned by Agco and was part of the Valtra Tractor Company acquisition (Finland) and a Fendt (Agco aquired German Tractor Company) designed IVT. I am sure it is tough to compete with Deere and CNH with your large AG tractors being built in France. That never made sense to me. The exchange rates with the weak dollar puts them at a huge disadvantage and shipping cost to the states. Agco brands like Massey and Fendt have a great following in Europe and it will be a good move to try to jump start Massey as an Noth American Ag tractor again. I think Agco had thought the Challenger brand, using CAT dealers would help them gain market share in the US. Agco was banking on the Challenger brand would become their US brand. They had some problems getting farmers into CAT stores and to keep CAT dealers interested in selling AG equipment. Some have done very well while others have alienated farmers from Agco. CAT dealers typically are quoting multi million dollar deals and most farmers are getting quotes for hundreds of thousand dollar deals. Massey combines are built in Hesston Kansas along with Gleaner and Challenger (yellow Massey) combines. Their balers are the same way depending on what color it is. I like the Agco brands, but from a manufacturing standpoint it adds cost trying sell everyones favorite brand. Agco is at a crossroads in the US and hopefully from a business perspective they need to trim down to only one brand. Massey would probally be the brand I would choose. Agco is currently a distant third in the US ag market and this may be a good start for them to get back in the game by building the large Ag tractors in the US. One thing is for sure they need to chill out on anymore aqusitions and concentrate on one brand. Good Luck to them!:thumbsup:

 

[Topkicker]

Although this will not concern 90% of this forum but i just found out that MF will be building tractors in the USA again. It will only be the 200+ hp for now but who nows maybe they will start building some smaller ones over here too.
Yea for MF and putting some jobs back in the USA. :thumbsup:

I'm in the 10%. I believe this country was stronger when we had more blue collar factory jobs and made more of our own stuff. Great to see MF is putting Americans to work.:thumbsup:

 

[DANOCHEESE]

here is a link THe Govenor was down to the plant for the announcment 150 new jobs. Tlking with some employyes there are not going to stop any of the current production.

YouTube - Jackson, MN - Great Place to Manufacture

 

[DANOCHEESE]

here is a link to an article

AGCO announces major expansion; governor praises all involved | Worthington Daily Globe | Worthington, Minnesota

 

[ShannonCole888]

Massey Ferguson is Canadian, American, England, Ireland, and Austrailian. Designers, Engineers, and Businessmen came from these parts of the world, to establish the Massey Ferguson tractor company. I understand, Harris Ferguson, and Daniel Massey, as well as David Brown, Henry Ford, all had a role to play in the developement of the Massey Ferguson tractors. A man from Ireland I believe had a lot to do with the development of the TE20 tractor (Little Grey Fergie), manufactured at Mr. Brown's plant in England. Henry Ford seemed to steal Harris Ferguson's 3 point hitch design, along with his tractor design, after something didn't go so well with their partnership. Harris Ferguson, brought the tractor buisness he started in Canada, didn't do so well in America with Henry Ford, and began production of the TE20 in England,then came back to the United States where he put Henry Ford out of the tractor business, and became the number one tractor manufacture in America. New Holland is owned by a company in Italy now, Case I am not sure. Case, and New Holland now share some of the same platform designs, if you pay attention, and ignore the grill, and color you will see the same tractor, like the Farmall A series, and the New Holland workmaster tractors. Ford doesn't make tractors anymore, and John Deere is still American founded, but hardly any average Farmer sized tractor is not made in the U.S. I know that means, American's are out of work, and foreigners to the U.S. have jobs American's once had, but I don't know this means, the products aren't built of the same quality. As far as we know it is the same grade's of metal, and same parts, just assembled in plants overseas, instead of here in America. If anyone knows anything more, please share. The Company's just get cheaper labor, building cheap products with a reputable name, will run the business into the ground in the long run. Cutting corners, will be like trying to take out the cornerstone. It is vital to stay in together. I am not sure John Deere's are made that well anymore, but I don't know this. I have noticed John Deere's breaking in half if rolled over. I know most of us will not roll over a tractor if we are careful, but I would like to think a simple rollover wouldn't be enough to break the tractor in half. Other makes may do the same, of the same tractor design, I don't know though. It appears the bolts that hold the engine block, and transmission together shear away, in a roll over, and the tractor basically breaks apart. Stronger bolts may make a difference, but I don't know.