Re-fills: Is there an easier way than two 5-gal diesel jugs??

[Car Doc]

I bought a 300 gal farm tank with 6' tall stand for $35 delivered and setup 15 years ago when above ground tanks started being obsolete because of epa or something.

They are around still I would check with farmers and farm auctions and bulk fuel company's in your area I bet you find one pretty quick that's the very best way to fuel up imo.

 

[beppington]

Since my original post I've had a chance to use one of my two modified yellow-cans ... where I drilled a 1/4" vent hole ... It works great!!! No more waiting for that ridiculous gurgle-gurgle-gurgle, blub-blub-blub air trying to pass by the falling diesel fuel. Half the can's diesel is in the tractor in mere seconds rather than minutes ... I can actually stand to keep doing it this way now :thumbsup: (for now that is!)

Next time my tractor needs a whole 5-gallons I'm gonna time it :thumbsup: :laughing:

 

[Haywire]

Why? Just get a 55 gallon drum and make a stand or do like I did and get a 300 gallon tote and make a stand. Put a little pitch on it, a filter, then a hose with a nozzle.

Because 55 gallons is too much and 300 is just beyond imagination. I wanted something that would do about 20 gallons and be rigged to hang flat on the wall, out of the way.

It's not feasible though. I stopped by the local shop that usually fabs up my hair-brained ideas for me and they quoted me $260 to make that tank from 1/8" aluminum. I'd have to add onto that the cost of the bungs, hose and nozzle. The sheet of aluminum by itself is $140. The nozzle is $30, fill bung and cap $30, haven't priced the hose or the other fittings.

Oh well, one more good idea that is too expensive to do.

Ian

 

[Diamondpilot]

Because 55 gallons is too much and 300 is just beyond imagination. I wanted something that would do about 20 gallons and be rigged to hang flat on the wall, out of the way.

It's not feasible though. I stopped by the local shop that usually fabs up my hair-brained ideas for me and they quoted me $260 to make that tank from 1/8" aluminum. I'd have to add onto that the cost of the bungs, hose and nozzle. The sheet of aluminum by itself is $140. The nozzle is $30, fill bung and cap $30, haven't priced the hose or the other fittings.

Oh well, one more good idea that is too expensive to do.

Ian

I have 2 30 gallon plastic jugs I would give you if you were closer. A $20 Harbor Freight pump and $10 in hose and you are set up. What I used for years but with a 55 gallon drum and gave it to my uncle.

I really think the 55 gallon is the way to go. It will get most CUT owners though a 1/2 year. You buy when fuel prices are down. I just thew mine in the truck or on the trailer when I had it hitched up. Fill it and unload by walking it off the truck/trailer to the FEL bucket.

Nothing says you have to fill it up all the way. I only get 150 gallons at a time in my 300 gallon tank now because that is the min for delivery.

Chris

 

[Car Doc]

I only put 100-150 in my overhead 300 also, diesel will store a long time not like gasoline that has a few months. Its a lot handier to have a bulk truck deliver and we just put the hose in and fill up...easy on the back that way.

fwtw I run winter fuel year around 1/2 #1 red and half #2 red mix in the tank so no worry's about gelling.

 

[WilliamTO-35]

I use only gasoline in my various vehicles, and keep about ten 5 gallon plastic cans out in the old milk house. I do prefer the older cans with vents and pullout spouts, but lately I've had to buy some new EPA approved ones with the really stupid spout designs. When pouring from a new type can, I remove the whole spout and pour from the can into an oversized funnel. Those unvented cans with the push-to-pour design are a hazard, as pressure inside the can will cause gas to spurt out everywhere when you try to use it. If you don't keep the nozzle fitting tight, water can get into the can. For my purposes, taking gas to the vehicle is often more convenient than bringing the vehicle to a stationary gas drum. I also do prefer to refuel small vehicles while the engine is cold. A compromise solution for the original poster might be to use the smaller 30 gal.( ?) steel drums with a hand pump that screws into the bung. You could put 15 or 20 gallons of fuel into each drum , and unload them from your pickup by hand. Lever or rotary hand pumps safe for diesel are inexpensive , and pump at a fairly high rate. I bought a lever type piston pump for pumping out water and sediment from the bottom of my heating oil tanks. It pumped out oil and water fine. Sediment, however, clogged the pump valves . I think a rotary pump with a flexible impeller might work better.

 

[Bill 55]

I agree with MF1532. I do not use enough diesel in a year to warrant anything more than 5 gal. cans. I have a little gizmo called a perfect siphon. Just a clear plastic tube with a brass fitting on one end that has a marble in it. Just set the can up on the hood, jab the hose into the can until it fills the hose and it will drain a 5 gal can in about 3 minutes. No mess no fuss. I keep one in the boat too. It saves hanging over the side and trying to manhandle a can.They run about $7.00

 

[Haywire]

Yea, but he who dies with the most toys wins right?

 

[DavidVT]

Is this that perfect siphon?
Super Siphon Hose

Interesting

 

[gdh]

YouTube - Christmas 2011 - Super Siphon



SOLD!

gdh

 

[WilliamTO-35]

Wooden golf tees make nice vent plugs for plastic gas tanks if you've drilled your own vent hole. Golf tees are also just right for plugging small vacuum hoses on vehicles. But don't cheat and actually pay money for tees; they're around for free by the dozen. The only thing I've never used my collection of golf tees for is playing golf.

 

[Bill 55]

Yes DavidVT that would be the one I am refering to. Wonderful little gizmo

 

[Bill 55]

I think tou can get them off the Northern Tool site too. They are available several places under different names but they all work well

 

[SPYDERLK]

Just try and carry 15 gallons of fuel with no rolling wheels

Yeah. ... Yould need 2 for balance.
larry

 

[Usta]

The original poster is in Florida so I do not think my fuel station will help but others may want to try it.
I have an oil furnace in my garage and so a 275 gallon fuel tank. I got another one year old 275 gallon tank on a deal I could not refuse (free). With the 500 gallon plus, I can heat my garage and have plenty of fuel for about a year.
I was not going to park my tractor beside these tanks and then lug 5 gallon cans so I bought a pump with 25 feet of hose.
The only thing I would do different would be a smaller pump. This pump is running on bypass most of the time because it pumps too fast for my little 6 gallon tractor fuel tank. It sure was nice fueling up the large excavator I borrowed last summer.

 

[HiTechTed]

You can always get a 55 gallon drum (if you have a pickup or trailer) and a hand pump for it. If you turn the key on your kubota will beep faster and faster until it's a sold tone telling you when it's full so you don't have to look in the tank while filling. I use an electric pump but have used the cheap rotary pumps from HF in the past, they seam to do the job.

Search results for: 'barrel pump'

I didn't know that about the beeping...does that apply to all of them or just the higher models? I've never tried it but on the next fill I'm going to just for fun!

 

[beppington]

Since my original post I've had a chance to use one of my two modified yellow-cans ... where I drilled a 1/4" vent hole ... It works great!!! No more waiting for that ridiculous gurgle-gurgle-gurgle, blub-blub-blub air trying to pass by the falling diesel fuel. Half the can's diesel is in the tractor in mere seconds rather than minutes ... I can actually stand to keep doing it this way now :thumbsup: (for now that is!)

Next time my tractor needs a whole 5-gallons I'm gonna time it :thumbsup: :laughing:

Update: Forgot to time it ... but an un-predicted side effect to my drilling a 1/4" vent hole in my two plastic diesel cans is that now both of their "EPA" nozzles leak/ drip pretty good while pouring. It's almost like they can't handle the diesel flowing thru them so fast. I haven't removed them yet to see how they're made yet, but will. Maybe there's some internals I need to yank out :confused2:

Funny, my circa 1992 red 5-gal plastic gas can with no EPA nozzle works flawlessly to this day, never a drip of gas is lost. I'm a picky dude, & I'm tellin' you, not a drip.

 

[beenthere]

Now it is running fuel out the vents that were there to gurgle air back in.

What is an EPA nozzle?

I'll try to look it up.

 

[beppington]

Now it is running fuel out the vents that were there to gurgle air back in.

Maybe that's true. Interesting though that it didn't leak fuel thru those the first 2 times I filled with these modified cans.

What is an EPA nozzle?

My own homemade term for the nozzles with the spring-loaded button you have to push & hold while pouring, required I believe on all fuel cans these days(?). Here's a pic:

 

[crazyal]

I have a couple of jugs that are made by the same company and look identical but the spouts can't be switched. One nozzle is too small to screw onto the top of one of the jugs. Another will screw on but leaks. Try swapping the nozzles and see if the problem fixes itself. When I go to the gas station I tuck each nozzle under the handle of the can it fits best otherwise they get mixed up.