After 5yrs of waiting and 1yr of looking at everything that is on the market i finally order a ls 4010 hydro yesterday Also brought a 7ft kodiak back blade that slides and a pallet fork. Then if that was not exciting enough the ls rep called me to inform me that the R4010 would not be able to be shipped until the end of the month (must be selling a few tractors). He was wondering if i would be interested in the R 4020 for a few hundred dollars more. I now have a R4020 hydro come in about a week. Thanks to everyone for all the post!! it really help me to get things narrowed down to my final purchase . This is really a great site with some great guys , I'll be posting again when i take deliverly