New York City has a POT HOLE law; if you run into a pot hole that has not been reported to the city for repaired and your care is damaged, too bad for you, eat the cost. The same should go for trespassing, ridding on someone's land. Eat the cost.
Neighbor's dobermans on my land, protecting "their" property ...??
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New York City has a POT HOLE law; if you run into a pot hole that has not been reported to the city for repaired and your care is damaged, too bad for you, eat the cost. The same should go for trespassing, ridding on someone's land. Eat the cost.
Ridgewalker
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AN easy out for the OP is to say he contacted his insurance and that they are telling him not to let folks ride due to liability and that waivers aren't worth a flip in court.
Then build a tight fence.
Then build a tight fence.
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Throwing dog treats at dogs coming at you full tilt? That's supposed to stop an attack? Yeah, I know, the intent is to get friendly with the dogs, but you need the opportunity first, and with the behavior described before the dogs crossed the fence, how and when are you going to make friends with them. Dog treats wouldn't have worked.
The owners can be just as dangerous as the dogs. Several years ago I had a forest consulting job on private property. The client's neighbor had a rottweiler that thought he owned the neighborhood. On the last day of the job I was near the property line, on the client's property side when the dog appeared about 8 feet from me, hair standing on it's neck and looking very aggressive. I pulled out my increment borer (like a heavy 12" metal pipe that holds a hollow bit used for boring into trees to check the rings), the only weapon I had other than a 2" pocket knife. The owners turned out to be about 25 feet away, on their property and they started yelling at me to not hurt a hair on their dog, saying if I hurt their dog they would hunt me down and kill me. After a few minutes standoff, they called off their dog. A woman who worked for my wife knew the idiots and said they were crazy enough to make their threat good. The sheriff had a chat with them.
I realize several on this forum have aggressive breeds such as dobermans, but I see no reason why people own breeds known for their aggressiveness. To show they are macho thru their dogs? There are plenty of good breeds out there that are obedient, protective and good companions and are less likely to kill someone. In our area, we hear about a pit bull killing someone, often a kid, about 4 or 5 times a year. And if you check the listings for available dogs at the humane society, more than half the dogs are pit bulls.
Check your homeowner's insurance. Many policies don't insure you for harm done by certain breeds.
The owners can be just as dangerous as the dogs. Several years ago I had a forest consulting job on private property. The client's neighbor had a rottweiler that thought he owned the neighborhood. On the last day of the job I was near the property line, on the client's property side when the dog appeared about 8 feet from me, hair standing on it's neck and looking very aggressive. I pulled out my increment borer (like a heavy 12" metal pipe that holds a hollow bit used for boring into trees to check the rings), the only weapon I had other than a 2" pocket knife. The owners turned out to be about 25 feet away, on their property and they started yelling at me to not hurt a hair on their dog, saying if I hurt their dog they would hunt me down and kill me. After a few minutes standoff, they called off their dog. A woman who worked for my wife knew the idiots and said they were crazy enough to make their threat good. The sheriff had a chat with them.
I realize several on this forum have aggressive breeds such as dobermans, but I see no reason why people own breeds known for their aggressiveness. To show they are macho thru their dogs? There are plenty of good breeds out there that are obedient, protective and good companions and are less likely to kill someone. In our area, we hear about a pit bull killing someone, often a kid, about 4 or 5 times a year. And if you check the listings for available dogs at the humane society, more than half the dogs are pit bulls.
Check your homeowner's insurance. Many policies don't insure you for harm done by certain breeds.
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Timely Thread...
This morning I had a window of opportunity to spray blackberry shoots and weeds at one of the rentals.
The cottage sits on a 25 by 125 city lot and is fenced from the front of the house to rear property line.
Years ago, I built the fences and they were doing well until a spec builder bought the cottage next door and used the bottom of the fence for his driveway forms to pour concrete... anyway, I digress.
The fence is 5' and on one side there is 30" between the fence and my house. I was spraying the blackberries and found myself having to crouch because the two pits next door were jumping and trying to claw their way over the top... the were able to jump high enough to get their muzzles over the top.
A women comes out and yells telling me I'm upsetting her dogs and to get away from the fence because they will bite... I tell her I've owned this home since 1982 and spray the blackberries each year in March and she shouldn't have dangerous dogs if she can't control them.
Glad I didn't loose and ear or worse.
This morning I had a window of opportunity to spray blackberry shoots and weeds at one of the rentals.
The cottage sits on a 25 by 125 city lot and is fenced from the front of the house to rear property line.
Years ago, I built the fences and they were doing well until a spec builder bought the cottage next door and used the bottom of the fence for his driveway forms to pour concrete... anyway, I digress.
The fence is 5' and on one side there is 30" between the fence and my house. I was spraying the blackberries and found myself having to crouch because the two pits next door were jumping and trying to claw their way over the top... the were able to jump high enough to get their muzzles over the top.
A women comes out and yells telling me I'm upsetting her dogs and to get away from the fence because they will bite... I tell her I've owned this home since 1982 and spray the blackberries each year in March and she shouldn't have dangerous dogs if she can't control them.
Glad I didn't loose and ear or worse.
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That is how I look at it, too. I wouldn't have a mean dog, but I guess if you want one, you have to realize and meet the responsibility that goes with it.
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And that is a big problem...lot of folks buying these breeds don't take the time to train them.
I love pit bulls...but my insurance carrier won't cover a property with pit bulls as pets even though they can be very lovable dogs. Our last dog was a pit bull/rottie mix. She was about as sweet as a dog can be. If she'd been pure bred pit bull or rottie, we couldn't have insured the homestead. To our insurance carrier, she was a mutt (which is accurate).
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We have a pitt bull and a doberman. We have had dobermans for over 40 years now and the pitt bull three years. These dogs aren't mean. We have never been bitten or had these dogs come at us when strongly disciplined. These dogs are very protective. And yes, protective dogs like this are a huge responsibility. They have to watched and controlled all the time. Not because these are mean dogs. It's because everyone on the face of the earth these days wants them put to sleep because they don't know how to handle big dogs without pepper spray, firearms, police, or lawyers anymore.
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We have our car insurance through one major carrier and our homeowners insurance through another. Last year our car insurance carrier called and wanted to quote our homeowners insurance. They asked what kind of dogs we owned and when we told them we owned a pitt bull. They said they could not insure us. We told them we weren't interested in doing business with them.
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I don't know about pits, but for the last 17 years I've had two rots. The absolute best dogs. Very very loyal. Unless you've had a rot, treated well, like a family member, you can have not idea at all what I'm talking about. The dogs listen to you and are a partner. Rather than a nilly willy breed of dog that simply lives to eat and be petted.
OTOH, My rot has NEVER EVER been on someone else's property without me and a leash. And he minds with a nod from me. He minds so well, it's like he's an extension of me. I never have to raise my voice to him.
And I don't let other folks close to him as he is not always "user friendly" and is distrustful of them. He's not going to hurt them, but it's the people I have to watch because people can be unpredictable. The rot is very predictable.
Do I call him aggressive? No, but some folks may not want a breed that has his own mind. Many "gentler" breeds may let you beat them till they die.. Let kids poke them in the eye with a stick, etc.. Some breeds will not.
OTOH, My rot has NEVER EVER been on someone else's property without me and a leash. And he minds with a nod from me. He minds so well, it's like he's an extension of me. I never have to raise my voice to him.
And I don't let other folks close to him as he is not always "user friendly" and is distrustful of them. He's not going to hurt them, but it's the people I have to watch because people can be unpredictable. The rot is very predictable.
Do I call him aggressive? No, but some folks may not want a breed that has his own mind. Many "gentler" breeds may let you beat them till they die.. Let kids poke them in the eye with a stick, etc.. Some breeds will not.
Ah a chance for education. Tell us how does one " handle " 2 large dogs intent on tearing you apart without the above mentioned tools. Better yet how does a 5 year old child "handle" it?
