Thank you everyone for taking the time to assist me and give me honest and decent feedback. Everything everyone has said thus far does totally make sense. For sure there is an army of orange out there, and finding used ones seems to be most plentiful, where I wasn't sure if the reason was people didn't like them and were just getting rid of them. (probably becasue they are going bigger more than anything) True other brands are not as plentiful in the used market, and I just wasn't sure if it was because people liked them more and didn't sell or part with them. I had to ask. I really do like the design layaout and features of the BX 25 (tough to find them for sale used yet) and the 24 has some draw backs that I don't care for or want to deal with. The only other machine I have been able to see and check out against the BX was the Cub Cadet, Hope to go check out the Bobcat and Massey this week on my lunch hour. Then I will know if they are all about apples to apples. to make up my mind, at least I am no longer skeptical about the BX units from what everyone has clarified to me thus far. After reading all the posts on this site with the numerous repeating issues on some of these machines.