Fencing brace-post pulling up during install ... Suggestions?

[MMagis]

adding on to SandburRanch statement.

create a DIY mesh tightener....

two 2 x 6's one on each side of the wire mesh fence.

use bolts and nuts, with washers to bolt the 2x6's together sandwiching the wire mesh.

then wrap a chain or like, around center of the 2x6's and tighten the wire mesh.

the 2x6's, help keep the wire mesh from being distorted as you tighten things up.

it gets a little tiresome, dealing with about 8 plus bolts per each section. but *shrugs*

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's using, based on the diagram. Well, 2x4's instead of 2x6s. Two come-a-longs is standard practice. I'm really thinking the problems is coming from the fence pressure, not when stretching. But I may be wrong. That makes a big difference, but there should be zero pressure on the post that's raising up until the pressure is released from the come-a-longs.

Edit: Never mind, I was over looking a vital piece of the diagram. Now I see how it's happening while stretching. The only thing it can be is that both of the post needs set better. Make sure you go back and add those other (blue) brace wires before finishing up as well, or you'll have a lot more pulling up in a years time.

 

[beppington]

I think your problem is you are attaching the fence to the left post when pulling to the left. The fence should be fastened to right post when pulling the fence to the left.

Both post-coming-up problems occurred before the fence wire mesh was ever actually attached - The come-alongs alone were still holding it.

 

[beppington]

adding on to SandburRanch statement.

create a DIY mesh tightener....

two 2 x 6's one on each side of the wire mesh fence.

use bolts and nuts, with washers to bolt the 2x6's together sandwiching the wire mesh.

then wrap a chain or like, around center of the 2x6's and tighten the wire mesh.

the 2x6's, help keep the wire mesh from being distorted as you tighten things up.

it gets a little tiresome, dealing with about 8 plus bolts per each section. but *shrugs*

In my diagram, the item labelled "2x4's CLAMPED ON TO WIRE" is our equivalent of what you described. It's just that we used 2x4's rather than 2x6's. We're using five 1/2" diameter bolts thru them, & we crank them as tight as we can get them to hold the wire tight. Do you think the 2x6's would help over the 2x4's?

Also, I seem to remember that Red Brand's own instructional videos shows their installer using two come-alongs, one at top & one at the bottom ... will have to go re-check that. But I do see what ya'll are saying about pulling un-evenly.

 

[BeeferMan]

Both post-coming-up problems occurred before the fence wire mesh was ever actually attached - The come-alongs alone were still holding it.

Ah, I see, my bad - I was not exactly understanding the problem you were having...

What you need is a wire from the top of the left post (where the blue wire attaches) to the bottom of the temporary post. Sort of parallel to the red wire. That will allow the temporary post to act as the end post - the left post and the red wire will brace that end of the fence once the mesh is attached to the left post.

(I say "wire", but since it's temporary, a chain and another come along would probably make more sense.)

 

[MMagis]

Anything that’s attached to the temporary post isn’t a solution. Though it’s happening while tensioning, it will continue to happen from the tension of the fence.

 

[BeeferMan]

Anything that痴 attached to the temporary post isn稚 a solution. Though it痴 happening while tensioning, it will continue to happen from the tension of the fence.

I think this was addressed to my post? If so then with the setup shown, during tensioning all the force is being applied to the top of the left post. This in not the case once the fence is attached top and bottom to the permanent post.

The idea is to tension the fence, then attach it to the permanent posts. Everything that is temporary or attached to anything temporary can go away once the fence is fastened to the permanent posts.

 

[MMagis]

with the setup shown, during tensioning all the force is being applied to the top of the left post. This in not the case once the fence is attached top and bottom to the permanent post.

Actually, that force will still be there. It never goes away unless the tension in the fence is gone.

 

[BeeferMan]

Actually, that force will still be there. It never goes away unless the tension in the fence is gone.

If the fence is only attached to the top of the permanent post, then you are correct. If the fence is attached to the permanent post correctly, the force will be distributed along the height of the post. That is not the same as the force(s) being applied while tensioning with the setup as shown. With that setup, while tensioning, there is no force on the lower part of the permanent post, so the permanent horizontal post will tend to act as a "hinge".

 

[beppington]

Un-even comealong tension. The top one is tighter. Use only one centered to solve the problem.

I understand the un-even tensioning idea, but I re-watched Red Brand's installation videos (Installation Videos), & they use a come-along at both the top & bottom.

 

[MMagis]

If the fence is only attached to the top of the permanent post, then you are correct. If the fence is attached to the permanent post correctly, the force will be distributed along the height of the post. That is not the same as the force(s) being applied while tensioning with the setup as shown. With that setup, while tensioning, there is no force on the lower part of the permanent post, so the permanent horizontal post will tend to act as a "hinge".

I do see what you're saying. But still, the pressure won't go away, though it will be distributed from top to bottom. Bottom line is that everything thing is braced properly. I would re-tamp both of those brace posts. If either one moves, you'll get heaving posts.