Acetylene rationing

[ultrarunner]

I guess no more night driving for me with my Acetylene Lamps.

Two cars have Acetylene Generators and one uses Acetylene from a tank with the pressure gauge on the bottom.

 

[Soundguy]

A shortage of acetylene due to the explosion is a red herring. .

I think that's being a tad insensitive.. people died and were injured in the blast...

Explosion at chemical plant kills two workers - Yahoo! News


soundguy

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

I think he was referring to the marketing crunch the event itself initiated. I don't think he was being insensitive to the loss of life, to state the facts surrounding the "inflation" and shortage of supply that is being blamed on this explosion. IF anything, I think it IS insensitive to use this situation where peoples lives were lost in order to profit from it.

 

[Soundguy]

i almost wonder if the shortages are not more consumer generated. ie.. news of the blast made everyone go swap tanks and buy up moe tanks.. thus using more than the normal supply amid speculation and fear of shortages... then when that happened.. price control measures went in to effect ie.. raise prices to reduce consumption.. supply/demand..e tc. along with a lil price increase for the 'expected price of manufacturer..

just speculating here..

soundguy

 

[Mace Canute]

A shortage of acetylene due to the explosion is a red herring.

I think that's being a tad insensitive.. people died and were injured in the blast...

Explosion at chemical plant kills two workers - Yahoo! News


soundguy

I never said a word about the two workers who died in the explosion; I clearly referred to the shortage of acetylene. For you to say I am insensitive about their deaths is simply reprehensible.

The two issues are related to the explosion, but they are not related to each other.

 

[Soundguy]

they are related.. an explosion occured. people died.. now there is a price backlash.. whether from consumer over-reaction or from retailer price gouging.. don't matter.

in the end. both stemmed from the same root cause. making lite of the situation just isn't acceptable.

soundguy

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

SoundGuy,
I didn't detect a bit of making light of the situation. Yes, as I said earlier, the letters sent out by the gas companies, alarming, and forwarning of large price increases is what made the market unstable, and increased demand. This was planned pure and simple. Not the explosion itself, mind you, but the marketing ploy as a result. Many of these guys are getting letters ONLY a month later. That ought to tell you something. I have been an airgas customer for a long time, with an active charge account with acetylene cylinders, and still don't have a letter....They are the ones making "profit" of these mens deaths. But because people died, does not directly reflect any price increase. This would have happened anyway if there was only the explosion and no deaths. The deaths have been used to dramaticize the price increase...Its not fair to say someone who is commenting on the abuse that is taking place in the situation is making light of someone's death. It would seem that your comments would point to the sentiment that the price increases are due to these mens deaths directly.

 

[Mace Canute]

they are related.. an explosion occured. people died.. now there is a price backlash.. whether from consumer over-reaction or from retailer price gouging.. don't matter.

in the end. both stemmed from the same root cause. making lite of the situation just isn't acceptable.

soundguy

This is the second time you have made an Ad Hominem attack on me.

I certainly never made "lite" of the workers deaths nor am I insensitive to their deaths. I never made reference to it in my original post so where do you get the idea that I am?

I repeat...the two events are related to the explosion BUT NOT TO EACH OTHER. Allow me to use a Venn diagram to illustrate why they aren't.

B is the plant explosion, C is the workers deaths and A is the shortage of acetylene. As you can see, both A and C are related to the explosion but have no relationship to each other.

 

[Car Doc]

Using soundguy logic.... then anyone talking about Chrysler making a profit is bad because someone somewhere got killed in one. :thumbsup:

 

[Soundguy]

This is the second time you have made an Ad Hominem attack on me.

I certainly never made "lite" of the workers deaths nor am I insensitive to their deaths. I never made reference to it in my original post so where do you get the idea that I am?

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Originally Posted by Mace Canute
A shortage of acetylene due to the explosion is a red herring. .

i took the reference to the explosion being a red herring as making lite of it.

since the explosion was related and not a diversion, as is implied with a red herring... thats what I got out of it anyway.

no ad hominem attacks either.. this is directly related to what I read in your comment.

if you weren't making lite, then ia accept that. it's not always easy to tell in written communication.

soundguy