Where to weld bucket hooks?

[grsthegreat]

I went ahead and cut and welded up the device to move my smaller bumper pull trailers. i had a similar device on my old tractor, and it worked great for years.

I simply gave up trying to use a receiver hitch device, because i could not get it to work without having to climb out of the cab to hook it up. As you can see in the previous post, i put a ball on permanent to the bucket. tested it and it worked great. I'm sure glad i filled the rear tires. this trailer did its best to try and lift the tractor up. Man this trailer is heavy. Ill use this for my goose neck trailers only

i tested this one pictured above....worked great. didn't have to climb out of the cab.

i simply pin it to hole in bucket when needed.

 

[Thick82558]

Nice set up great looking tractor
I'll bet you will use that ball in center
Way to go

 

[grsthegreat]

Nice set up great looking tractor
I'll bet you will use that ball in center
Way to go

already did yesterday

the tractor has so much lift capacity, i had to feather it to prevent it jerking the trailer too hard. tractor felt a little light on the rear tires, but handled and moved the trailer ok

 

[JB4310]

I went ahead and cut and welded up the device to move my smaller bumper pull trailers. i had a similar device on my old tractor, and it worked great for years.

I simply gave up trying to use a receiver hitch device, because i could not get it to work without having to climb out of the cab to hook it up. As you can see in the previous post, i put a ball on permanent to the bucket. tested it and it worked great. I'm sure glad i filled the rear tires. this trailer did its best to try and lift the tractor up. Man this trailer is heavy. Ill use this for my goose neck trailers only

i tested this one pictured above....worked great. didn't have to climb out of the cab.

i simply pin it to hole in bucket when needed.

Nice fabrication work :thumbsup: But that clamp set up looks to be a weak link.
Or does that bolt go thru bucket and have a nut on the bottom?

I can see how that would put the ball right out in an easy to spot location.

JB

 

[grsthegreat]

Nice fabrication work :thumbsup: But that clamp set up looks to be a weak link.
Or does that bolt go thru bucket and have a nut on the bottom?

I can see how that would put the ball right out in an easy to spot location.

JB

the bolt goes thru a hole in the bucket and will have a latch pin installed. this works to provide a lock point AND helps when carrying the thing. If i ever have to haul a very heavy loaded trailer, i can install a washer and nut for added safety

its a larger version of one i made years ago

i can see it nice and easy from the cab, and it attaches to all 3 of my trailers without having to raise the hitches all the way off the ground. i just leave the hitches as they would normally be when offloaded from trucks hitch.

 

[grsthegreat]

tried the 2-5/16 ball out to move the horse trailer into the carriage barn. work great. Now the wifes trailer is under cover. Man this tractor can lift.

 

[grsthegreat]

Nice fabrication work :thumbsup: But that clamp set up looks to be a weak link.
Or does that bolt go thru bucket and have a nut on the bottom?

I can see how that would put the ball right out in an easy to spot location.

JB

Man, this new 2" offset receiver i made works perfect. I can see the ball pop right into the 2" hitch on my trailers without having to move out of the seat. My old own was a little shaky when attached , but the new one is rock steady.

 

[Thick82558]

That is a good feeling when you make something and it works out nicely. That sounds like you have a nice set up thanks for sharing.

 

[J_J]

You all know that you can lift more, lifting from the back of the bucket, the point closest to the lift pins so why not weld an upside hook by each lift cyl. and a 2 in receiver on the top for all the other accessory's. To lift from one point, connect a chain from both hooks and lift from the middle of the chain. I don't think I would want to bend the lip of the bucket with the total lifting weight on one chain. You could weld one of the hooks straight, and 2 in beside that, weld another one upside down. You then have covered all possibility's. So, two kooks by each cyl, and a 2 in receiver in the middle top.

 

[foggy1111]

Here's how I set up my bucket. Its re-inforced (boxed) on the top of the bucket. I think I have a 6" drop in that receiver ball mount. It gets under my trailers (barely).

BUT....I just bought a set of bolt-on hooks from KennyD for my son-in-law's tractor. He doesn't have access to a welder.....and a welding shop will charge more - if we bring in his bucket. Kenny's solution is easier and cheaper for him!

 

[Dargo]

You all know that you can lift more, lifting from the back of the bucket, the point closest to the lift pins so why not weld an upside hook by each lift cyl. and a 2 in receiver on the top for all the other accessory's. To lift from one point, connect a chain from both hooks and lift from the middle of the chain. I don't think I would want to bend the lip of the bucket with the total lifting weight on one chain. You could weld one of the hooks straight, and 2 in beside that, weld another one upside down. You then have covered all possibility's. So, two kooks by each cyl, and a 2 in receiver in the middle top.

Without any doubt, you've forgotten more about hydraulics than I'll ever know. However, anyone I've ever seen with a hook on the back of their bucket has also had a smashed in hood, bent hood guard and/or damaged radiator. Apparently, if you're going to pickup and carry anything over any distance it will inevitably swing and, with it right next to your hood and radiator, it will quickly mangle your tractor's appearance.

 

[avc8130]

I am having similar trouble with figuring out a receiver hitch on my bucket. My bucket doesn't have that nice, flat top like the ones in the picture. Instead the top of the bucket has a 2" steel pipe integrated for strength and the back of the bucket slopes down about 60 degrees. If I put the hitch on the slope, it points to the sky, and if I roll the bucket forward it seems like the cutting edge digs into the ground.
ac

 

[grsthegreat]

I am having similar trouble with figuring out a receiver hitch on my bucket. My bucket doesn't have that nice, flat top like the ones in the picture. Instead the top of the bucket has a 2" steel pipe integrated for strength and the back of the bucket slopes down about 60 degrees. If I put the hitch on the slope, it points to the sky, and if I roll the bucket forward it seems like the cutting edge digs into the ground.
ac

can you post a picture of it? maybe someone can come up with an idea to help

 

[avc8130]

can you post a picture of it? maybe someone can come up with an idea to help

I attached a pic I found on the web. You can see the top edge of the bucket is a pipe and you can see that the top/back is at quite an angle.
ac

 

[JB4310]

I attached a pic I found on the web. You can see the top edge of the bucket is a pipe and you can see that the top/back is at quite an angle.
ac

It could be done, just take a little more work, you would need some triangle shaped gusset plates welded to the back of the bucket to get the receiver tube up level at the top of the bucket.

JB.

 

[rjmack]

these seem to work okay, the shackle in the middle worked good too, until i used it for a trailer ball.

 

[Dargo]

these seem to work okay, the shackle in the middle worked good too, until i used it for a trailer ball.

I can't say that I've ever seen anyone weld a clevis shackle with flattened ends for mousing to their bucket. I have to assume that the tractor is relatively small based on the stamped 1/8" mild steel bucket, but you would still be less likely to bend your bucket using a weld on hook if you're going to weld it on and then welding it to a piece of 1/4" plate welded to your bucket that would pull over a larger area of the 1/8" bucket. Personally, I've never been very good at straightening a bucket after it's been bent out of shape. If you're just using the pin on hooks you have welded to your bucket to hold material on the tines, I can see where you'd likely not ever bend your bucket with them.

 

[avc8130]

It could be done, just take a little more work, you would need some triangle shaped gusset plates welded to the back of the bucket to get the receiver tube up level at the top of the bucket.

JB.

That was my thought/plan at this point. I can't live w/out a receiver hitch on my bucket and call life "complete".
ac

 

[JB4310]

That was my thought/plan at this point. I can't live w/out a receiver hitch on my bucket and call life "complete".
ac

Or an L shaped piece like in the picture in post #76 above.

JB.

 

[rjmack]

I have to assume that the tractor is relatively small based on the stamped 1/8" mild steel bucket, but you would still be less likely to bend your bucket using a weld on hook if you're going to weld it on and then welding it to a piece of 1/4" plate welded to your bucket that would pull over a larger area of the 1/8" bucket

the outboard hooks are fine to the maximum capacity of the loader, they are in a very rigid area, and wrapping them around the bend makes the bucket more rigid and stronger at the lifting point.

the shackle in the middle is there specifically to be the 'fusible link'... i put it there to fail first, before bending the bucket. in as much as the downward and twisting force of the trailer hitch was absorbed by the shackle, an overloading in a lifting capacity would do the same. since this picture was taken, a few good smacks with a 6lbs hammer has repaired the damage to the shackle without causing any damage to the bucket.

the plan obviously works.

if you overload the bucket across a larger section, you simply spread the damage over a greater area... effectively causing more damage. :2cents