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If this gets Obama re-elected, ***** will have done more damage to this country in his death than he could have ever done in life.


Comments like that are really uncalled for. One should never equate a person to a snake.
 
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Some would say that the cause was actually created and funded by US, trying to get the Russians out of Afghanistan during the Cold War. The cause then turned on US, due to our policies in the Middle East. ***** was at odds with the ruling elite in Saudi Arabia. And today, as we are seeing it, people's voices are trying to be heard in that part of the world. So I guess if you fishbone it, eventually the US plays a part in the model of terror. Depending on what side of the religious belief one is in, your at odds with a lot of your leaders in that part of the world. So that also plays a part.

Perfectly said, At times we create our own monsters due to our shortsightedness. We provided shoulder fired missiles to then Mojahedin (*****), turned to Taliban and turned Al-Qaeda jsut to get rid of Russina. marriage of convenience is never good in the long run. Getting rid of " communist infidels" was more of the priority than " garden variety infidel (us)" for twisted Wahabi ideology ***** and his co-hord. The same mistake happened in 1953 when we (CIA) kicked out democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran (Dr. Mossadegh)" to put up poppet Shah of Iran ending up with turban head mullahs.

JC,
 
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Well, maybe you have created monsters, but unfortunately there is no paralel universe or a lab environment to run tests first.

It is always better to do something, than do nothing, at least in my book. Especially helping to cut of tentacles of the communistic octopus, it helped bring them down and that's what counts.
 
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Well, maybe you have created monsters, but unfortunately there is no paralel universe or a lab environment to run tests first.

It is always better to do something, than do nothing, at least in my book. Especially helping to cut of tentacles of the communistic octopus, it helped bring them down and that's what counts.

Communism was a decaying tooth. It had to be pulled out or rut in place. I think events in Eastern Europe had much more to do with demise of communism than Afghanistan. It is always a double edge sword.. it cuts both ways.

JC,
 
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Well, maybe you have created monsters, but unfortunately there is no paralel universe or a lab environment to run tests first.

It is always better to do something, than do nothing, at least in my book. Especially helping to cut of tentacles of the communistic octopus, it helped bring them down and that's what counts.

Don't know about that. Look at Hubert Hover, back in 1928-30. Hover sent food aid to Red Russia which ended up saving the Red Communists, he later recounts his screw-up in his writings. Look at the harm one man did.
 
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Well, maybe you have created monsters, but unfortunately there is no paralel universe or a lab environment to run tests first.

It is always better to do something, than do nothing, at least in my book. Especially helping to cut of tentacles of the communistic octopus, it helped bring them down and that's what counts.


Heck we were bankrupting the whole eastern bloc and Mother Russia too through our military-industrial complex.

BUT - we wanted (IMHO) - blood too. Some would say payback for Vietnam, so we built and supported people who would spill their blood to exact our plan.
 
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Communism was a decaying tooth. It had to be pulled out or rut in place. I think events in Eastern Europe had much more to do with demise of communism than Afghanistan. It is always a double edge sword.. it cuts both ways.

JC,

Gotta see the big picture, if they succeeded in Korea, Afghanistan, if they were not opposed in Vietnam, that toot would stick around much, much longer.
 
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Gotta see the big picture, if they succeeded in Korea, Afghanistan, if they were not opposed in Vietnam, that toot would stick around much, much longer.

Your point is well taken, but things are never black or whites and dynamics changes all the time. Do you think communism for the peasants and capitalism for the Communist Party Chiefs will work? That system is doomed to collapse as well.

JC,
 
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Now the nuts are coming out of the wood work and the squarriles are not far behind. Now envelops with white powder are showing up at mauls and schools.
 
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