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jda1961

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southeastern west virginia
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1978 ford 3600, 1964 ford 4000 rowcrop
question, on my 1964 4000, narrow front, the steering boxes on front and at the steering wheel have a slight seep, its not bad but stains the paint. was wondering where i can get the proper seals for it. i read in another forum that there is a grease that i can use thats not thick as greasegun grease but not runny either and it won't seep out like the other does. what do you think?
 
   / sound guy #2  
parts for the front steering pedistal are hard to come by... you pretty much have to take them out and get them matched up at a seal / bearing house by ID, OD and thickness.

the steering box seals, as far as I know are available.. it's only a side cover gasket and a sector seal anyway.

as for the grease.. it's likely a better way to go anyway, if your steering is tight and you only have a seep.

I have tacked to my wall, a ford service bulletin dated 10-31-1962 stating to use 0# grease int he steering boxes.

In a 950 nf I just rebuilt, I had a hard time with the lower seal on the 1 piece pedistal, the steeirng axle shaft that protudes down had wear on it and I could not sleave it.. so I packet it with 0# grease, as it would weep 85/140 gear oil.

the grease packing stopped the weeping.

NLGI 0# and 00# grease is available at good fuel / lube distribuitors, or you can order it.

Many JD delers stock cornhead grease tubes.. AFAIK it is 0# or 00# grease and will work well.

it slowly slumps to fill in gear boxes, j=yet is thick wnough to not weep..

the steering box will take 2 tubes or so to fill the box and stering column, the front pedistal on a 2 piece will likely take 3 tubes or so. the front pediastal on a 1 piece is hungry :) and takes about 6 tubes if empty..

you will end up with strong arms if you manually pump it in... if you have an air or electric grease gun.. no problem.

if manually doing it.. save some elbow wear and remove the front pedistal cover after removing the grill, and just use your grease gun with only the tube and plunger to manual force the tubes into the cavity.. fill to the top, then repalce the cover.. clean the gasket surfaces and use rtv or right stuff..

ont he steering box, add a 3/8 zerk to a pipe bushing in place of the fill plug and pump in there...

ps.. regular gun grease like #2 or #4 is too stiff and will leave a cavity. In a pinch i have used 8oz of 85/140 or hub oil, and a tube of #2 to get the same results in a clapped out old mower gearbox, letting the gears mix the grease and oil into a nice thick soup that won't leak past a worn seal.... but it's much less hit or miss by just getting the 0# or 00# grease from the get go..

soundguy
 
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#3  
thanks sound guy, i think the grease is the way to go.
 
   / sound guy #4  
ford thought so back in 62 even.

soundguy
 
   / sound guy #6  
good stuff
 
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ordered 6 tubes on friday and got it monday, from illinoise, fast shipping.
 
   / sound guy #8  
sweet. we have local jd dealers and they make you buy it by the case... :(


soundguy
 
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finally got around to putting the cornhead grease in the front pedistal. i took the top off and it looked nearly full of oil, so i removed the drain plug and water gushed out of it, it was mostly water. its a wonder it did'nt freeze and bust the housing. checked things out inside the best i could, dried it out inside with rags and sun shine. i found all i had to do to get the grease inside was to remove the ends of the grease tubes and it will slide out and into the cavity on its own. its good slick stuff. need to do the steering box next, but can't find a drain plug on it.
 
   / sound guy #10  
i bought a tractor out of north ga one year.. a rowcrop.. and water had frozen in the pedistal.. nothing broke, but almost couldn't load it as the wheels turned about 2" either direction. :)

you will find the steering box on a rowcrop is an altogether different beast than an ag model.

aside from pulling a bolt ont he sector side blank plate.. no real drain..

just pump full of that sticky grease.


my 950 is clapped out in the front.. steering pedistal has about 1/8" of play I was unable to shim out.. it's full o' grease right now.. :)

still mows fine.

one day i will jack it back up and clean out the pedistal and see about doing a lil farm machining ( ie.. weld n grind ) work on the parts and see if i can snug them a bit more.. :)

soundguy
 

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