Smoking and dying

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Ace Ford

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Harper, TX
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Branson 2810
OK, a quick question. I pride myself on knowing essentially nothing about diesel engines (bad upbringing) so here is what ought to be a simple question (maybe). My Branson 2810 cranks, runs smoothly, then begins to smoke and will die, particularly if you put some stress on the engine (engage the PTO). Cranks right back up again and is not overheating. It seems as if the smoke is coming rear right. Minus the smoke, my guess would be fuel filter. Can a clogged fuel filter make one smoke? :confused:
 
   / Smoking and dying #2  
OK, a quick question. I pride myself on knowing essentially nothing about diesel engines (bad upbringing) so here is what ought to be a simple question (maybe). My Branson 2810 cranks, runs smoothly, then begins to smoke and will die, particularly if you put some stress on the engine (engage the PTO). Cranks right back up again and is not overheating. It seems as if the smoke is coming rear right. Minus the smoke, my guess would be fuel filter. Can a clogged fuel filter make one smoke? :confused:
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Remove the air filter and try it momentarily being careful no foreign object can be sucked in the intake.
 
   / Smoking and dying #3  
OK, a quick question. I pride myself on knowing essentially nothing about diesel engines (bad upbringing) so here is what ought to be a simple question (maybe). My Branson 2810 cranks, runs smoothly, then begins to smoke and will die, particularly if you put some stress on the engine (engage the PTO). Cranks right back up again and is not overheating. It seems as if the smoke is coming rear right. Minus the smoke, my guess would be fuel filter. Can a clogged fuel filter make one smoke? :confused:

I would guess fuel starvation - - I suppose I should first ask "What COLOR smoke ?"
White or black ?

In any case I would drain the water separator, bleed air, try again.
If that doesn't work I would replace the fuel filter, again - bleed the air from it.
 
   / Smoking and dying
  • Thread Starter
#4  
Red--it is black smoke. I've got a fuel filter coming and I'll try the water separator (as soon as I find it). :) Thank you.
 
   / Smoking and dying #5  
Red--it is black smoke. I've got a fuel filter coming and I'll try the water separator (as soon as I find it). :) Thank you.

I often refer to the fuel filter and water separator as one and the same thing - and on SOME trucks, tractors, boats, etc. they actually ARE one unit.
Sorry if that caused confusion.
Since I don't know your specific tractor model I suggest you look it up to see if there are separate units, or if the fuel filter performs the water separator function (many do).
 
   / Smoking and dying #6  
Black smoke is a load on the engine or starving for air. I would check the air cleaner. I would make sure nothing is blocking the air intake as well. Is your PTO turning freely? Fuel, air and compression in the right combination is what makes it run. :thumbsup:
 
   / Smoking and dying #7  
youd be amazed at the mouse nests that i have pulled out of filter housings after a winters rest.
 
   / Smoking and dying #8  
I started putting bounce fabric softener sheets around stuff I didnt want mice or rats to bother. It works for me.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
   / Smoking and dying #9  
I started putting bounce fabric softener sheets around stuff I didnt want mice or rats to bother. It works for me.:thumbsup::thumbsup:


and your mice never smelled sweater:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
 
   / Smoking and dying
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I often refer to the fuel filter and water separator as one and the same thing - and on SOME trucks, tractors, boats, etc. they actually ARE one unit.
Sorry if that caused confusion.
Since I don't know your specific tractor model I suggest you look it up to see if there are separate units, or if the fuel filter performs the water separator function (many do).

It is a Branson 2810 and best I can tell from my manual, fuel filter must be doing "both". I did remove and checked the air cleaner (yep, I now all about mouse nests in engines) and it was clear so that's not the problem. Smoke is black from exhaust, but I'm also getting white smoke from some sort of hose that looks like an overflow hose that runs to the back and opposite side of the engine from the exhaust pipe. I haven't been able to find out just what the heck that is with my limited Branson manual, but I'm going to take another stab at it tomorrow. Oh well, on the plus side I'm good with horses...
 

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