4wd tractor vs 2wd

[johnrex62]

Ditto. Mary Ann and Betty. I don't like drama and attitude. :thumbsup:

 

[Travis_R]

For what it's worth...

My friend's Mahindra 3510 4x4 with front end loader and R4 tires will NOT pull my 6.5' lift type gang disks in 2WD near as well as my Massey Ferguson 231 2WD tractor with the regular R1 agricultural tires, in the same soil.

When you engage 4WD on the Mahindra, it pulls just as good as my Massey.

Neither tractor has water in the tires.

I posted this because this is what I've experienced first hand. It's not an opinion.

With this said, Mahindra and Massey Ferguson are all I'd buy. I wouldn't spend my money on any other brand.

4WD, and even diff lock (although my tractor is equipped with diff lock), are not necessary for me for what I do with my tractor although they are nice "add ons" for some. They don't always get you out of that situation, and can even sometimes worsen the situation... I've experienced and seen this numerous times also.

To each their own...

 

[boggen]

i would say 2wd can do pretty good damage. so can 4wd.

if it was an option and within price range, i would most likely went with a 4wd TLB (tractor loader backhoe) but after taking a fully day 20 hours i think and looking at i want to say 14 to 16 different TLB in price range. it came out to be very last TLB i looked at which was the ford/new holland 555c.

the allis chalmers CA was i need of a riding lawn mower that had extra power and ability to handle hills when mowing.

the 555c will eventually be sold and then a utiltiy class tractor 40hp range will be bought. but dollar for dollar and what needs to be done on the farm. the backhoe has came in very handy plus much more HP and weight class. granted at moment i can not do anything with 3pt hitch equipment. (allis chlamers ca is so old 3pt hitch wasn't really around yet when it was made) and 555c TLB the backhoe doesn't come off due to it being a construction tractor, and not a farm / utiltiy tractor model.

4wd drive, would allow me to be out in the mud, doing things but would also be putting ruts every place i went, and i would end up spending extra time after being out in mud cleaning up all the ruts. vs waiting for things to dry out. by the time things dry out 2wd gets me around just fine.

on other hand, when i do sell 555c TLB and then get a utilty class 40hp tractor or a little bigger. it will be required to have MFWD (4wd) left and rear stearing brakes, differential lock. FEL (front end loader) and possibly a small size 3pt hitch backhoe that is easy to disconnect and reconnect.

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older tractors more so 2wd tractors are selling left and right majorly ((www.tractorhouse.com)) you rarely see MFWD (4wd) for sell. and if you do. it is a very slim number compared to 2wd tractors. due to farmers upgrade there equipment they are selling off the old 2wd and going with bigger machines and most likely MFWD (4wd) tractors. to get them into the fields or into mushy wet muddy conditions sooner than they could with 2wd.

i wished the 555c TLB i have had the 4wd option on it. i could of done a few more things vs fighting the mud. and not being able to steer and needing to backup or not relying as heavily on left and right back brake pedals to steer me as much.

but just having 4wd. does not take the cake, ya need the experience and the know how. to work things and drive. and know your limits and the tractor limits. 90% of what i do 2wd is just fine. but that other 10% getting out of muddy situations or climbing up or down a hill and keep from sliding all over the place 4wd would by my bread and better. and actually be a lot less free of stress. ya MFWD (4wd) tractors are more complicated vs 2wd tractor. but there built hard to be abused hard, like any other piece of machinery, ya need to stay on preventive maintenance. if ya can't do an oil change on regular basis on a car. you will pay the price of tearing things up on tractors and machinery for them. due to all the grease spots, oil locations and types of oil, amount of time it takes to wash out all the nock and crannies on them. a car or truck is simply compared to tractors in keeping them maintained.

 

[dex3361]

i have had both 2WD (IH 424) and 4WD (Kubota L4400HST) tractors for some years. I am from WV and if you have ever been to WV flat land is in short supply. I always ran chains on my IH424 for traction and control. The IH424 was a great hillside tractor and it was very stable on the hills the downfall was stopping going downhill. The IH424 did not have a FEL but the Kubota L4400 does. I have lost traction going downhill with the IH so may times and it was always a scary event.
The 4WD allows the tractor to hold back much better because the front tires are holding back with the rears giving good engine breaking and in 4wd and the tractor in gear the rear brakes are linked to the front mechanically. So I recommend 4WD for safety if nothing else.
Any tractor is better than no tractor. 2WD can do a lot of work and are by no means helpless. 4WD tractors are much more capable in the mud and are safer on the hills.
Be open and realistic in your research. Listen to the advice of the seasoned tractors on TBN and then make the purchase you want to make cause you are the one who will be using the machine and will have to live with it.
Have fun with your first tractor purchase.

 

[tractorboy5500]

For what it's worth...

My friend's Mahindra 3510 4x4 with front end loader and R4 tires will NOT pull my 6.5' lift type gang disks in 2WD near as well as my Massey Ferguson 231 2WD tractor with the regular R1 agricultural tires, in the same soil.

When you engage 4WD on the Mahindra, it pulls just as good as my Massey.

Neither tractor has water in the tires.

I posted this because this is what I've experienced first hand. It's not an opinion.

With this said, Mahindra and Massey Ferguson are all I'd buy. I wouldn't spend my money on any other brand.

4WD, and even diff lock (although my tractor is equipped with diff lock), are not necessary for me for what I do with my tractor although they are nice "add ons" for some. They don't always get you out of that situation, and can even sometimes worsen the situation... I've experienced and seen this numerous times also.

To each their own...

The MF has taller tires, a taller tire will grip better than a shorter tire, If getting a 2wd look at the rear tire height, a taller tire will be better.
And if the mahindra had water in the tires it would grip alot better, a FEL will take weight off the rear tires.

 

[SixHoeBob]

The narrow R-1s will have much better traction than the wide R-4s. The loader makes the front end sink into the loose dirt, therefore the front wheels are being pushed through the loose dirt. Take the loader off for a more even comparison. The R-1s will still fare better than the R-4s.

Why aren't the tires filled on both tractors?

 

[ShannonCole888]

I don't know how many times I said this, but I'll say it again. For the work I plan on doing, Plowing, Tillage Work, and pulling heavy logs. A 2wd is all I believe I need. I honestly don't like the 4wd models as well. There are a few tractors where 4wd seems ok, but they usually are equipped with a FEL.. Between a Belgian, and Clydesdale, I prefer a Belgian. I just like the Belgians stockier stance. The Clydesdale is taller, but there are both of each I like, and dislike. Both can make good draft horses. They almost look exactly the same, and there are cross bred horses out there. There is a real nice young Belgian up in Pennslyvannia right now, at a rescue place.It was owned by a Amish family, that ran out of grain for it, and it lost a lot of weight. It had only been eating grass. It is a little underweight, but once he gets back in shape, he would be a real nice draft horse.. here is the link

YouTube - ‪M4V01564.MP4‬‏

 

[tractorboy5500]

I don't know how many times I said this, but I'll say it again. For the work I plan on doing, Plowing, Tillage Work, and pulling heavy logs. A 2wd is all I believe I need. I honestly don't like the 4wd models as well. There are a few tractors where 4wd seems ok, but they usually are equipped with a FEL.. Between a Belgian, and Clydesdale, I prefer a Belgian. I just like the Belgians stockier stance. The Clydesdale is taller, but there are both of each I like, and dislike. Both can make good draft horses. They almost look exactly the same, and there are cross bred horses out there. There is a real nice young Belgian up in Pennslyvannia right now, at a rescue place.It was owned by a Amish family, that ran out of grain for it, and it lost a lot of weight. It had only been eating grass. It is a little underweight, but once he gets back in shape, he would be a real nice draft horse.. here is the link

YouTube - ‪M4V01564.MP4‬‏

Maybe you need to find a thread for your horses, and stop whinning about how a 2wd is better than a 4wd tractor.:confused2: this is the most hard headest thread I been on.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I don't know how many times I said this, but I'll say it again. For the work I plan on doing, Plowing, Tillage Work, and pulling heavy logs. A 2wd is all I believe I need. I honestly don't like the 4wd models as well. There are a few tractors where 4wd seems ok, but they usually are equipped with a FEL.

Pls list some existant features that turn you off of 4wd.
larry

 

[SixHoeBob]

It has yet to be mentioned that front tires for a 4wd will be more money than 2wd front tires. And they would be heavier to lift while changing them. This could be the icing on the proverbial cake.