Long range wireless router help

[MossRoad]

my bad, I had buddy that was in surveillance a while back, I thought he told me once that u could run that stuff a long ways, maybe he was just talking about our run. ..or maybe he was just blowing smoke

While there is a published limit on CAT5 cable, it can easily be exceeded and still work. I have a few runs of over 400 feet with no noticeable affects. As long as the cable is kept dry, straight, no kinks or sharp bends, good solid connections on each end, it can work. It is not recommended, but can be done.

 

[radioman]

First off, what you want to do is illegal.
Second, some satellite internet services that I will not mention by name get horrible reviews due to initial cost of equipment, frequent lack of access, limited bandwidth and bandwidth throttling.

Now that we have that out of the way, we can continue with our technical discussion of how it would work. Just to prove the theory, of course. :laughing:

You need TWO ends. One at her house and one at your house. They both have to be able to send and receive to each other. One easy way to do this is with bridges. We have Cisco wireless bridges AIR-BR340 with good directional antennas doing a 17 mile link with no amplification(we have the advantage of having free access to really high towers :thumbsup. We also have them doing two 5 mile links and one couple hundred foot link. They work really well and can be found on e-bay for under $50 bucks. Then you need some directional antennas which can also be had on e-bay, some coax cables and some mounting hardware. You could probably get away with under $250 for a really good, 11Mb link, which is much faster than her satellite connection.

I agree this could work, but I picked the old school approach since the OP is unkowledgable in what equipment to get and how to hookup.

As for illegal hook up- if it was direct wire connection, how can it be since his neighbor expressed saying go ahead , borrow my network? if it wireless, well its open for interpretation.:laughing: I'd be leery of trying to do a 17 mile hookup since her hookup is satellite and they are terrible for bandwidth issues. everybody would be trying to check out her network within 17 mile and each person trying to authenticate themselves will steal a little bit of bandwidth and each one will add up. hugesnet will cut back on internet bandwidth if MB exceeds said amount and will not tell you until you call and check.

 

[Putter]

Have you looked at Cell phone internet? I have had mine for six months and am happy with it. If you get cell phone signal where you are, your provider will probably set you up with a wireless hub for nothing. I have an Ericsson W30 just plug it in no antenna required. Might be worth a look. :thumbsup:

 

[KTurner]

First off, what you want to do is illegal.

How is trying to get internet from your neighbor, with their knowledge and permission, illegal? It might be a violation of the terms of service for his neighbor, but that doesn't make it criminal.

Keith

 

[JDgreen227]

First off, what you want to do is illegal.
Second, some satellite internet services that I will not mention by name get horrible reviews due to initial cost of equipment, frequent lack of access, limited bandwidth and bandwidth throttling.

Now that we have that out of the way, we can continue with our technical discussion of how it would work. Just to prove the theory, of course. :laughing:

You need TWO ends. One at her house and one at your house. They both have to be able to send and receive to each other. One easy way to do this is with bridges. We have Cisco wireless bridges AIR-BR340 with good directional antennas doing a 17 mile link with no amplification(we have the advantage of having free access to really high towers :thumbsup. We also have them doing two 5 mile links and one couple hundred foot link. They work really well and can be found on e-bay for under $50 bucks. Then you need some directional antennas which can also be had on e-bay, some coax cables and some mounting hardware. You could probably get away with under $250 for a really good, 11Mb link, which is much faster than her satellite connection.

If you tell the OP what he wants to do is illegal, and you provide advice on how to accomplish such an illegal end, doesn't that implicate you REGARDLESS of your cautionary warning? Keep this going, guys, I want to learn a way to do it...illegal or not.

 

[JDgreen227]

How is trying to get internet from your neighbor, with their knowledge and permission, illegal? It might be a violation of the terms of service for his neighbor, but that doesn't make it criminal.

Keith

Before we got DSL, one of my neighbors, whose house is 220 feet from ours, was paying for DirectTV Internet. ON a good day, I could see the wireless network he was using as an available one on my laptop, but I never tried to connect to it.

As I interpret your post, trying to get internet from a neighbor with their knowledge and permission is not illegal, but if I tried to get internet from my neighbor without his knowledge, would that be illegal?

My wife sometimes takes a laptop to her folks house, and is often able to connect wirelessly to a neighbors Internet, without their knowledge. Is that illegal?

 

[dodge man]

Do you have local phone service? We live in a rural area, and we get internet, cable TV, and local phone service all over the phone line. Its technology that came out a few years ago, and works well. It may or may not be available in your area.

 

[KTurner]

As I interpret your post, trying to get internet from a neighbor with their knowledge and permission is not illegal, but if I tried to get internet from my neighbor without his knowledge, would that be illegal?

My wife sometimes takes a laptop to her folks house, and is often able to connect wirelessly to a neighbors Internet, without their knowledge. Is that illegal?

I can't quote a section of the code or anything like that. I can say that it's probably close enough to stealing that, if someone wanted to, they could probably make you really regret connecting to their network (claim unauthorized access/hacking and get a subpoena/searchwarrant for you/your computer based on their logs showing your MAC address). Granted, if they had the technical knowledge to do that (ie, identify *you* as the person connected), they'd almost certainly have secured their network and you wouldn't be able to connect in the first place.

I can see both sides of the argument, that having the network unsecured and broadcasting is an invitation for other people to use it, and that unsecured networks are probably that way because people don't know better not because its an invitation (ie, leaving your key in the car doesn't give someone permission to use it).

On a couple different occasions, I've had my wifi open/unsecured and labeled it as such by setting the SSID to OPEN-BeNice, or something similar. To me, this is a clearly an open invitation. When I did this, I had two networks - one open one and a second private one. None of my data or computers ever hit the public one.

Another small possibility to consider is that someone has placed an open wifi network online so that they could steal data when people connect to it. Say, you use the same username/password for everything. They see you login to tractorbynet or some other msg baord and your bank. Of course, the bank login is encrypted but the msg board login is not. They can see your username/password, and they can see what bank you just logged into. Voila. Now they can login to your bank. BTW, this is not limited to anonymous unprotected wifi. This is one of the reasons why it's so important to use different passwords, at least for things that are really important (normally financial stuff).

Keith

 

[dmccarty]

If she allows you to access her Internet she will be in violation of her service agreement. Will the Sheriff show up and arrest both of you? No.

Since the two homes will be using the same connection you have no security over the shared connection.

You do not want to spend $250 to get DISH, but I think you are going to spend close too, if not more than $250, to use your neighbors access. Might as well get DISH and be done with it.

There is ALWAYS something better that will be here RSN, Real Soon Now.

We have cable, roughly a 1/4 mile behind us. Wireless access a mile away, not cell or WiFi. We have DSL but at 1.5MB down. There is at least 3 MB down on the road a mile away. I think all they provider has to do is put in a box and we are good to go. We are danged lucky to have DSL even at 1.5MB down.

We keep hearing we will have something faster RSN. Been waiting for years.

Later,
Dan

 

[nikdfish]

Is a wired connection (buried or aerial) an option, and if so, is power available at some in-between point? 1000' rolls of cat5 cable plus a plug crimp set are not very expensive, and an inexpensive powered hub/switch at a rough halfway point would be plenty to accommodate a run of that length.

Nick