Big trouble with new Diesel.

[Turbys_1700]

In my case, I only drive 3-5k miles a year with a truck. I tow maybe 600 miles a year. When I do tow, I pull an average of 15k-20k GTW. I also haul a lot of fire wood, and Stone. There was no doubt I needed a bigger truck. I priced out every truck on the market, both new, and used. For my needs, it did not make any economic sense to buy a new truck of any brand. I wanted a late model extended cab Dually loaded. I found this truck, which fit the bill perfectly. Out of the three brands, I found that for the years 2005-2009, the Duramax-Allison combo were the higher rated engine tranny combo. The Ford was higher rated for chassis durability, the Dodge was behind both. For the right price, and mileage, I would have bought either a Ford, or the Chevy/GMC. I still think $25500 is a good price for this fully loaded 56K mile truck. If the salesman had not reneged on the warranty, we would not be having this problem. If I had not subsequently had oil leaks, and Vibration issues, I might have been open to a compromise on the warranty. I think most people would agree that any late model vehical reasonably maintained, with 56k miles on it should be able to make it to 100k miles. I will let everyone know what the out come is when I meet with the General Manager this week.

You did get a really good price...
That truck is IMHO worth that easily...

Just as an aside, when I purchased my 03 F350 it had 38K miles on it...
The previous owner was a building contractor that pulled a small trailer that held his tools...
The truck was in very good condition...
But, I still had to replace a universal joint and a rear seal within the next two years due to excessive dirt built up in the drive train...
The previous owner evidently ran the truck a lot on dirt roads...
I knew this when I purchased the truck but the point is that all used vehicles will have their particular issues...
I now have 95K miles on the truck and she has been very reliable...
I feel confident once you get those issues corrected on you Duramax you will have similiar good results...

 

[Diamondpilot]

You guys are so brain washed. I have 2 6.0L Fords that are worked hard, chipped, and not a single issue. I know lots of people personally with 6.0L Fords and the only issue was a EGR. Yes, some had troubles but so did my Dmax, by far the worst vehicle and engine (I) have ever owned.

One thing you need to remember when bashing Ford is they dominate this segment. Ford sold more diesel trucks then GM and Dodge combined. It would take them 3 years of sales to trump Ford back then so yes, there are going to be more issues.:confused2:

Chris

 

[cowski]

i would drive it back to the dealership and leave it ,no warrenty no deal.a friend of mine bought a 07 new. chev can not keep the front end lined up. electrical problems rear end break problems plague his he does have 60000 miles on it.

 

[xtn]

You guys are so brain washed. I have 2 6.0L Fords that are worked hard, chipped, and not a single issue. I know lots of people personally with 6.0L Fords and the only issue was a EGR. Yes, some had troubles but so did my Dmax, by far the worst vehicle and engine (I) have ever owned.

The early 6.0 Fords were problematic. But that doesn't mean every single one of them. It just means they had a few percentage points higher problems than normal.

I've got an '03 6.0 myself. It has 191,000 miles so far. I just replaced a unit bearing on the front end and the water pump pulley too, which self destructed (see picture).

Otherwise I've had NO trouble from it at all. Never an EGR problem. Never a bad injector. None of the typically described problems.

 

[schoolsout]

You guys are so brain washed. I have 2 6.0L Fords that are worked hard, chipped, and not a single issue. I know lots of people personally with 6.0L Fords and the only issue was a EGR. Yes, some had troubles but so did my Dmax, by far the worst vehicle and engine (I) have ever owned.

One thing you need to remember when bashing Ford is they dominate this segment. Ford sold more diesel trucks then GM and Dodge combined. It would take them 3 years of sales to trump Ford back then so yes, there are going to be more issues.:confused2:

Chris

brainwashed? lol

I sell commercial vehicles and can't tell you how many customers I've traded out of 6.0l versions (when I could find a willing wholesaler to take it off our hands)

 

[schmism]

Look at it from the point of the warentee company?

why did they deny? (commercial excuse was just that... and excuse) what do THEY know about that truck (or that class of Chevy truck) that you dont?

If they dont want to cover it, then thats good enough reason for me not to own it!

Id get a lawyer friend involved. Personally Id want the dealer to take the truck back AND pay me the price of the flatbed i just had put on the back (take the receipt).

IF they did that, then i wouldnt have an issue buying another truck from them otherwise im shopping some place else.

 

[slowzuki]

The 6.0L are a hot potato, I've met a few guys that defended them to the bitter end when theirs finally blew. If you get the right one they seem ok, its a pretty high stakes game of russian roulette, you can buy trucks with blown up 6.0's pretty easy, I've never seen any other late model diesel have engine repairs so costly the owner is willing to sell without fixing. I've got a friend who had one, the previous owner pouring over 10,000$ into it, then he did the same think right after he bought it. Sold at auction for under 10K.

 

[JB4310]

Look at it from the point of the warentee company?

why did they deny? (commercial excuse was just that... and excuse) what do THEY know about that truck (or that class of Chevy truck) that you dont?

If they dont want to cover it, then thats good enough reason for me not to own it!

Id get a lawyer friend involved. Personally Id want the dealer to take the truck back AND pay me the price of the flatbed i just had put on the back (take the receipt).

IF they did that, then i wouldnt have an issue buying another truck from them otherwise im shopping some place else.

Typically. the aftermarket extended warranty companies wont cover commercial vehicles, If the VIN came back chassis cab, that to them is a commercial vehicle, and they couldn't sell the policy.

Either that or when the dealer was filling out the app, they wrote in flat bed where it asks body style. That would be a red flag, it shouldn't cause alot of people use flatbeds for personal use, but it could be an issue withe the warranty company.

Even brand new vehicles warranties are very limited in the commercial vehicle market. Usually 3 years and 36,000 max. Any type of extreme duty application is probably not gonna have a warranty at all.

JB.

 

[schoolsout]

There are some companies that do a pretty good commercial truck warranty. If you want, I can get you the name and maybe your dealer can go that route. I want to say "Premium 2000" is a decent one

 

[HHR]

You guys are so brain washed. I have 2 6.0L Fords that are worked hard, chipped, and not a single issue. I know lots of people personally with 6.0L Fords and the only issue was a EGR. Yes, some had troubles but so did my Dmax, by far the worst vehicle and engine (I) have ever owned.

One thing you need to remember when bashing Ford is they dominate this segment. Ford sold more diesel trucks then GM and Dodge combined. It would take them 3 years of sales to trump Ford back then so yes, there are going to be more issues.:confused2:

Chris

Here is a good article that shows some of the 6.0L weak points and the procedures that are involved in addressing them.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarti...ower_stroke_bulletproofing_tactics/index.html

A neighbor bought an '03 6.0L and spent $5K at the dealer before he sent the truck to this shop. Another $8K later he had his truck back in a reliable state. Sold it 6 months later for $15K.