More newbie kioti vs. Kubota

[unhappykioti]

I wouldn't put much stock in the Kubota dealer just because he is a friend of your neighbor, My brother in law used to work for our local Kubota dealer even when I was in the process of buying myself and I visited them he was a first class jackass every time I went there.

 

[o2batsea]

I have a Deere sst18 zero turn for the lawn, guess I didn't even think of using it there, just for mowing field, digging some water lines in with a rented backhoe attachment, getting a good box scraper... So forth

Well, I for one wouldn't tell you to go smaller. Not once have I ever thought, gee, I wish I had a smaller tractor! My only limitation is in getting in around the treed area of my place. If the trees are closer together than the width of the tractor I can't get through (obviously) but that's the only thing really. Otherwise the size is great (DK 45 cab) and having the extra oomph I cannot regret. I wouldn't necessarily size the tractor by acreage. If you need the size and power for material handling or whatever, who's to say you're wrong?

 

[kattywumpus]

Focus on what your future projects and tasks will be not acreage. I purchase a DK40 for the FEL lift and backhoe capacities. Starting at the DK40 there is a big jump in loader lift capacity. For all my other tasks that do not require the FEL or backhoe the CK series would have been fine and the attachments would have cost less. Honestly I do not need a 6' tiller. A 4' one would have been fine, but the default rear wheel spacing is 72". If you don't need the FEL lift and backhoe capacities of the DK40 or above series I would recommend the CK series.

 

[Tibbits]

I'm using a kubota L series 34 HP on about 8 cleared acres and 7 wooded and it seems just right. Fits 6 ft implements just right and industrial tires are the way to go. it can be a chore getting around in the woods though.
I use a bx1500 for the yard and any delicate stuff.
i would not go any bigger than 35 HP. it won't be needed and would cost more to maintain as others have mentioned. also may leave you more room in the shop. also, any money saved could go against the implement collection - the more you have the more your tractor will help you. implements can bust a budget because when you need them, you really need them now. anyway, from my view it's hard to justify extra HP when it may only be needed less than 1% of the tractors life.

 

[gkh7890]

SpinalTap,
I have a DK40SE HST, 401K FEL. I built a house almost 2yrs ago on 5.5acres. I was thinking like you and others here that the 30-35hp range was more than enough to take care of my property. I run a 6ft Woods Brushbull (bush hog) for the field area.....even use it to finish cut somethings but have switched off to a riding mower around the house for now.

You don't need the 50!!! I went to the DK40 for the lift capacity of the FEL alone! It is almost twice that of the DK35 (1400lbs vs. 2700lbs for the DK40). The DK35 may be the right model for you??? That's what I was looking at originally. I can tell you that after using a larger John Deer that I definitely wanted some comfort and easy-to-use features. The nicest thing about the DK line is the 3pt control lever out the back. No more running around to the front or side to adjust the 3pt up or down. It is right there at the back of the tractor. Here's another thing to consider.....go drive them!!! I wanted the Grand L3940 so bad!!!!! But when I drove it, I was very unhappy with how I had to twist my right foot to operate their HST pedal. Not so w/ the DK pedals. Also, how tall are you? Short or long legs? etc. The importance is comfort and ergonomics. The seats on the DKs go back and up thus dropping your knees down and that is not the case on the Botas. I felt very confined on the Grand Ls in comparison. From a "good deal" perspective, when I compared the L3940 & DK40 spec'd apples to apples(as much as possible b/w the 2), I saved over $4,500 with the DK.

I'll concur with prior comments about dealers and both products. Kioti has the better warranty and Kubota has the edge on the legendary reliability side (in my mind) but again, both are awesome products!!

Tibbits is spot on regarding using and needing attachments. I just made my own pallet forks. My father-n-law bought a 6ft. King Kutter II rotary tiller and it works great behind his JD 5303 as well as my DK40, and it would work well behind a DK35 or CK35 for that matter. I just used the forks to help clear brush from a fence line we're replacing. Wish I had a grapple for it now....I may add a top claw to the forks??? Anyway, you will find projects like you never imagined once you get your tractor home and start using it....guaranteed!:thumbsup:

I do wish I had a cab unit this past winter....would have made plowing more comfortable!!

As for your abilities, if you can size up a socket to a bolt head, tighten and loosen bolts, and use a grease gun....then you can maintain your tractor. I don't mean to sound bad, mean, pushy here, but if you are going to buy a machine like this, you need to know up front that things will break and the more "handy" you are, the more time & $$ you'll save. You will bend things and scratch things....its part of owning and using a tractor. I'm sure you know by now that you will get quite the education on here by many of the members/professors!!

Hope this helps as this has been my experience we'll all be waiting to see which brand and model you pick when you announce it and show off its delivery photos!!

Good luck:thumbsup:

 

[indianaEPH]

I was originally looking for a sub 30 hp tractor with FEL. I had 9 acres of field and woods. I then ran into a 40hp TYM that was also much heavier then my target purchase. I bought the TYM and never looked back. The added capability of the tractor has been put to good use many times, particularly when pushing over trees and running the 6 foot bush hog through very heavy brush. It is also had more room and was more comfortible. I now have about 25 acres and building a house and some times I wish I had more even more FEL capabilty and more hydraulic flow. I have never run out of PTO power however.

So im in the camp that, if the finances allow, the larger tractor will never disappoint. ....if you do fine the DK is to large for you Id be happy to talk about a trade ;

 

[Spinaltap33]

Gkh,
Agreed, the only reason I'm really contemplating a 50 is because of the kioti incentives, it's only 2000 to 2500 more. The height is only four inches taller and width is something like 6 inches wider with industrial tires, but way overkill for my purposes, maybe I'll just put that cash into attachments... Iw I'll have pics soon on whatever it is I buy... The itch is strong ... Hahaha

 

[Coyote machine]

I'd seriously look at the DK-35 and 40 and do a feature for feature comparison then do a Kioti to Kubota comparison. I can't speak to the Kubota tractors other then saying a few of my neighbors have them and seem happy.
IF you think you'll need more lift capacity then go with a DK-40 or larger. You won't really get more with a DK-45 except HP and cost; same with the DK-50.
Otherwise take a DK-35 and save some $ for implements.
Definitely test drive all potential candidates.

Good luck.:thumbsup:
Ps. I've had both the Dk-35 and Dk-40 and for me and 25 acres of woods, fields, ponds, etc. the 40 is excellent for me- see my attachment list below...

 

[gkh7890]

Gkh,
Agreed, the only reason I'm really contemplating a 50 is because of the kioti incentives, it's only 2000 to 2500 more. The height is only four inches taller and width is something like 6 inches wider with industrial tires, but way overkill for my purposes, maybe I'll just put that cash into attachments... Iw I'll have pics soon on whatever it is I buy... The itch is strong ... Hahaha

Hmmm....the Force is strong in this one, I feel. Him soon have DK and very happy, I forsee. Train him we will.........:laughing:

 

[northcreek2624]

Iam with o2batsea on this one.I have only three acres but,regularly use the acres of county land that surround my property.
My DK40 has been the perfect tractor for me and Iam glad that when I purchased it I decided to upgrade from my target of 30-35 hp cut.I even wish at times that I had gone for the DK45.
Often my son will use it or I have helped friends with their projects and the extra power is really appreciated at those times.
Like o2batsea said "who wishes that their tractor had less power?" kind of like,why do they put a low power button on some vacuum cleaners?
Unless your sole purpose is moving mulch,I think that you will appreciate all the pluses that come with a larger machine...mike.