Ag Size Buying Help?

[rasimmo]

My stepdad has a M9540. I weighed it the last time I hauled it. With the loader attached and loaded rears it was 9860lbs. Another point, we have wished several times while baling hay that it had the creeper option. Sometimes you need more options to make the baler run smoother.

 

[piller]

My stepdad has a M9540. I weighed it the last time I hauled it. With the loader attached and loaded rears it was 9860lbs. Another point, we have wished several times while baling hay that it had the creeper option. Sometimes you need more options to make the baler run smoother.

I believe that the creeper gear for the M9540/M8540 can be added by your dealer at any time.

 

[foreman Etexas]

kubota:thumbsup: If it needs more weight add wheel weights,one thing about it you can always shed the pounds if u wont!!!

 

[Bigfoot62]

Deere isn't local and aren't competitive with prices.

Don't know what you mean by "local," but I would assume that you can find a Deere dealer with a 100 miles or so. The closest ones to me are 55, 75, and 100 miles away, but around here, that's considered "local."
As far as prices are concerned, I bought a new JD 5085M last year for just about the same price as the Kubota. (I think it was within a couple thousand dollars) I was comparing the Kubota 9540, NH 5040, and the JD 5085M. All MFWD, Cab/Air, Power Reverser (hydraulic shuttle), FEL, radial tires.
Three years ago, I was looking for an open station tractor in the 70 hp range and bought the NH TN70A. (now, basically the T4030)

I enjoy both of those tractors and use them a good bit. I have nearly 350 hours on the NH and just over 150 on the JD.

I'm looking at either the TYM903 or 1003 vs the Kioti DK90 and Kubota M9540.

Of the three you mentioned, I would buy the Kubota.

 

[ModMech]

If you need an AG tractor, my suggestion would be that you purchase one.

IMO, there are a few AG Tractor manufacturer's and they do not include anything from Japan or China....

You do have:
JD (over 50 PTO HP)
CNH (over 45 PTO HP)
Mahindra (over 40 PTO HP, but local dealer???)
MF (over 40 PTO HP)

That is about the list.....

You want WEIGHT for field work, helps with traction and stability. Why buy a light tractor for less $$$ than pay more than what you saved getting the tires filled, rear and front weights, when you could have paid that price for an honest AG tractor in the first place?

One thing I have learned over the past few years, OLD tractors with lower "HP" get more WORK DONE on less fuel that NEW tractors with more HP because the OLD stuff will work HARDER - you get more out of it, because they are HEAVY BUILT!

Going light (weight/duty) in an AG tractor is not the right thinking, IMO.

 

[downslope]

...You want WEIGHT for field work, helps with traction and stability. Why buy a light tractor for less $$$ than pay more than what you saved getting the tires filled, rear and front weights, when you could have paid that price for an honest AG tractor in the first place?...
...Going light (weight/duty) in an AG tractor is not the right thinking, IMO.

I agree, WEIGHT and CUBIC INCHES for field work. If you look at the tractors you call lighter duty they usually have smaller displacement engines that have to turn higher rpms and generally won't last as long. There's the old saying "There's no substitute for cubic inches" Yes you might squeeze a little more fuel economy out of a smaller high rpm turboed engine, but for the amount of hours most of us run our tractors it doesn't amount to much $$.

 

[foreman Etexas]

I'm looking at either the TYM903 or 1003 vs the Kioti DK90 and Kubota M9540. I'm not (too) afraid of the little known TYM tractors and these larger models spec out better than the other to brands... and not by a little over the Kubota. But, it's the intangibles that worry me. Only the Kubotas are available locally to test drive. The nearest TYM's of that size is in Virginia! I'm in New England. Kioti's are not much better in terms of dealers that have the large machines in stock. Most dealers are only carrying the CUTs.

Pricewise and configured the way I want, they're all in the same ballpark. My biggest concern between them regards weight. The Kubota, for the same HP, is 2,000 lbs lighter than the TYM and 2,400 lbs lighter than the Kioti. I'll be doing hay on grades of 12-18%. Am I wrong to be as concerned about weight as I am? Does dealer proximity trump the weight difference? The Kubota dealer is 12 miles from me. The Kioti dealer is 17 miles and the TYM dealer is 26 miles. This is assuming I buy the tractor from the dealer closest to me. Is it fair to test drive a machine in Virginia only to buy it from a local dealer? Again, the only one I can test drive without getting on an airplane is the Kubota. What say y'all?

Everyone says weight.These tractors are heavier but were is the extra weight located on tractor(is it all on the back)? Adding water/anti.to tires is free at dealer(well was for me).Even the Really big tractors without ldrs are using front weights,its just something that has to to be added sometime.Why is the kubotas lift on 3point 7,275 and the kiotis 5,290lbs if they are a heavier tractor?kioti has 16f and 16r gears,you can get the 9540 in 24f and 24r gears.Kubotas pump capacity is 17gpm and kiotis is 12.8gpm. Kubota pto hp is 84 and the kioti hp78.There are just other things I would look at besides the weight advantage the other 2 tractors have over the kubota.Just my :2cents:

 

[5030]

Neither the 'Green' nor the 'Blue' and certianly not the 'Red' in the 100 horsepower class is 'American Iron' any more that a Harley is and most likely less.

They all come in, in containers. get real.:laughing:

Anyone who thinks JD 100 horsepower and less is American Iron needs to wake up and smell the roses.

They guy I work for is a vet and bought a Horicon JD diesel to mow his large yard with. he's a real patriot. I opened the hood on his new, not even run yet, JD and showed him the obviously foreign engine.

The dealer he bought it from picked it up the next day. He bought an old Farmall A with a Woods belly mower.....That's American Iron.

 

[ModMech]

They guy I work for is a vet and bought a Horicon JD diesel to mow his large yard with. he's a real patriot. I opened the hood on his new, not even run yet, JD and showed him the obviously foreign engine.

The dealer he bought it from picked it up the next day. He bought an old Farmall A with a Woods belly mower.....That's American Iron.

Even if he didn't generate any jobs with the purchase of an older unit, I just HAVE TO RESPECT the gentleman for sticking to his convictions.

Please say "Thank you for Serving" from my family to his, we will both appreciate it.

 

[Bigfoot62]

Neither the 'Green' nor the 'Blue' and certianly not the 'Red' in the 100 horsepower class is 'American Iron' any more that a Harley is and most likely less.

They all come in, in containers. get real.:laughing:

Anyone who thinks JD 100 horsepower and less is American Iron needs to wake up and smell the roses. . .

FWIW, yes my newest "Blue" tractor was made in Italy. (Fiat owns NH, so I thought that was logical, and I knew that before purchase)

However, my JD 5085M was built in Augusta, Georgia and the engine is a JD PowerTech built in the USA.