What size trailer?

[rebelback]

I have a 2010 Case IH Farmall 45. I currently have a Bush Hog SQ172 (6 ft.) bush hog for it and plan on getting a 6ft disk for it. I'd like to be able to tow all of this to my hunting locations for food plot work. I will be towing with a 2004 F150 4wd. I want a bumper pull style trailer. What size trailer do I need to be looking for? I measured my tractor and bush hog the other night. It was roughly 25ft long including the FEL. I'm thinking I can raise the bucket up over the bed of the truck to cut out some space or maneuver it for more space on the trailer.

 

[RPW]

Getting a BP trailer that long could be an issue. But besides that you need to total up the weight of everything you plan on towing plus the weight of the trailer to insure you don't exceed your trucks GCVW.

 

[bigbull338]

you just got yourself in a gooseneck trailer wanting to haul all of that.20ft long is the biggest bumper pull made.

 

[Diamondpilot]

You are asking too much of your truck for one. Also, having the FEL not secured to the deck of the trailer is dangerous and above that against the law. Tractor data says your unit is 4,491# plus the loader is about 1,200# along with your BH or disc its around 1,000# putting you at 6,700# give or take. That is without any weights or loaded tires.

A 20' trailer is around 3,000# itself so you would be knocking on the 10,000# door. I am a F-150 fan and have pulled that type of load with not only my 1997, 1999, 2001, 2004, and 2007 4x4 5.4 powered trucks with 3.73 gears and one with 4.10 gears and its all it wants. Yes, you can do it but think it out first. You really need a bigger trailer than the 20' one so you weight is just going to keep going up. If its just a few times a year have a roll back do it or just drive the tractor if its 20 miles or less.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

you just got yourself in a gooseneck trailer wanting to haul all of that.20ft long is the biggest bumper pull made.

Not true. I have seen 30' BP trailers or longer.

Chris

 

[bigbull338]

well thats just me a 20ft bumper pull is all id pull.anything above that would be a gooseneck,as your putting to much weight on the trailer tongue an truck.i know guys that pull 24ft flatbed goosenecks with f150 4x4s.

 

[TeamNH]

You are asking too much of your truck for one. Also, having the FEL not secured to the deck of the trailer is dangerous and above that against the law. Tractor data says your unit is 4,491# plus the loader is about 1,200# along with your BH or disc its around 1,000# putting you at 6,700# give or take. That is without any weights or loaded tires.

A 20' trailer is around 3,000# itself so you would be knocking on the 10,000# door. I am a F-150 fan and have pulled that type of load with not only my 1997, 1999, 2001, 2004, and 2007 4x4 5.4 powered trucks with 3.73 gears and one with 4.10 gears and its all it wants. Yes, you can do it but think it out first. You really need a bigger trailer than the 20' one so you weight is just going to keep going up. If its just a few times a year have a roll back do it or just drive the tractor if its 20 miles or less.

Chris

I have to agree. Your asking alot for your truck. Yes it will do it, but its not worth it (wear and tear, loosing control and rolling over or hitting and killing someone). You should be into a heavier class truck and going with a goose neck would be best. I dunno about you, but I moved my TC34DA with loader and loaded tires on a 18ft BP with my 02 Chevy 1500, 323, with 4:10's and 4x4. That load is great, it pulls it well. If I start adding the backhoe or other attachments... it sucks... big time. There is a night and day differences to towing this much weight between a 1/2 ton class truck and a 3/4 or 1 ton. I will tell you I will NEVER tow my tractor again with my chevy 1500, and I wont do it with a truck that is of the same rating. Owners manual says it can pull 9800#, my trailer and tractor with attachments can be 8000#. Its a scary ride. Think about how much weight you will have behind you vs. how much your truck weights. The 1/2 ton trucks will pull it, but will it stop it? or control it if needed? Just cause it says it can pull the weight dont mean it should be done.

Your idea of putting the bucket up will not work... unless you have a goose neck. Then you can rest of the FEL on the goose part and chain it down.

If you are dead set on doing it with your 150 then I would still go with a goose neck and load the trailer very carefully and balance the load, make sure you have the right amount of weight on the truck and the right amount on the trailer axles. Properly loading a trailer of this type and weight will be a must.

You might have problems if driving up the back of the trailer and lifting the back of your truck up.... I have had this happen:ashamed:. Also with how long your tractor and bush hog are you might need a dove tail on the trailer so you can get on. If your going to remote places to your hunting land you also might get into a bad place asking that much of your truck.

All of this of chores is just my opinion.:confused2:

 

[Diamondpilot]

Few thoughts here after reading the last post. Most truck will safely tow 2 to 2.5 times the trucks weigh if not more. For example a 8,000# F-350 can safely tow upto its 20,000# or so limit. Same is true with a F-150 that weighs 5,000# pulling about 10,000#. When you get into heavier trucks they are commonly pulling 5 times or so what they weigh. Look at any semi rolling down the road.

Also, driving a 1/2 ton made in the last 4 years is night and day difference from one made just 8 years ago as it was to one made just 15 years ago. They are so much stronger, brakes are so much bigger, everything is so much better they have really done away with the market for 3/4 ton gas trucks. In many cases the 1/2 ton of one brand with all the good stuff like big engine, gear, ect can tow and handle just as much or sometimes more than the gas 3/4 ton of the same brand. In my opinion they should just do away with 3/4 tons. They have stayed stagnate for the last 15 years while the 1/2 tons have gained 50% more capability and the 1 tons, especially the diesels, have gained nearly 100% capability.

Chris

 

[jenkinsph]

I have a 2010 Case IH Farmall 45. I currently have a Bush Hog SQ172 (6 ft.) bush hog for it and plan on getting a 6ft disk for it. I'd like to be able to tow all of this to my hunting locations for food plot work. I will be towing with a 2004 F150 4wd. I want a bumper pull style trailer. What size trailer do I need to be looking for? I measured my tractor and bush hog the other night. It was roughly 25ft long including the FEL. I'm thinking I can raise the bucket up over the bed of the truck to cut out some space or maneuver it for more space on the trailer.

Lots of good points so far and let me say I go through similar issues all the time moving my equipment. To get where you are able to carry the tractor/fel, bushhog and disk in one trip is likely to be prohibitive with a bumper pull.

The cheapest way to do it would be to buy a second small trailer capable of carrying one or two implements and make two trips. The reason to have the second trailer is that you can use the fel to load this trailer with the implements. Haul the tractor to your location and drop the trailer there then come back home and pickup the second trailer.

Using both trailers would be lower in cost and within the towing capacity of the current truck. Other than this I would recommend splitting up your work where you do the bushhogging in one trip and disking in another. This is my preference when working alone, handle all the tasks I can with a selected implement or two that will fit my trailer then return with different implements next trip.

I have an F250 pu, f350 flatbed and two F550 service trucks along with several trailers. I have found through actual experience that it is simpler and cheaper to make two trips.

 

[PoorPlowboy]

Few thoughts here after reading the last post. Most truck will safely tow 2 to 2.5 times the trucks weigh if not more. For example a 8,000# F-350 can safely tow upto its 20,000# or so limit. Same is true with a F-150 that weighs 5,000# pulling about 10,000#. When you get into heavier trucks they are commonly pulling 5 times or so what they weigh. Look at any semi rolling down the road.

Hmm. Max legal load 80k lbs. Max legal gross weight 120k lbs. Seems to me that they're only pulling about 2x their weight.