Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running

   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #41  
I'll admit that have I hooked up the the pto with the engine running. However, it is not very often. I would say the odds of a 'self-start' increase with the age (and degraded mechanical condition) of the tractor. Some tractor models have known defects - The Old Case 70 series for instance. If you ever want a good read on why to shut the tractor off when dealing with the pto and pto driven equipment pick up 'A Measure of Endurance: The Unlikely Triumph of Steven Sharp'. On my JD 5403 when I have the pto lever in the off position, I find that the shaft still rotates.

Hawk
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #42  
Forum contributors,

I am a retired fireman with 35 years of service in a large department, with much of that time being a member of the departments Technical Rescue Team.

Unfortunately, over that time I responded to a number of P.T.O. or power shaft emergencies. These were some of the most horrific emergencies dealt with. All it takes is to have a small portion of clothing, hair, anything that is attached to you to contact the turning shaft. If the shaft makes one revolution the person may be dead or maimed in a matter of seconds.

Slow turning shafts can be just as problematic as high speed shafts. I have arrived on scenes where you see only a bundle of clothing wrapped around a shaft. The clothing would be so tightly wound on the shaft it may not be possible to physically unwind the clothing material. You find it necessary to cut the bundle from the shaft and after a few moments you realize that was not just a bundle of clothing, there was a person or an extremity in that clothing.

A very high percentage of these accidents are fatal, but some people do survive, usually facing a very long hospital stay and many surgeries to repair and/or graft back lost skin or body parts. If the patient survives they usually face an entirely different life with artificial limbs, or possibly extremely disfiguring injuries.

When a person is in a hurry, or tired we are inclined to take short cuts and take chances that we know is not good practice. After thinking back about some of my experiences, it is very important that I recommend shutting off P.T.O. shafts and better yet, turning off the engine or a machines power source prior to hooking up or working around these dangerous shafts that look safe and not likely to be an object that can change you or your loved ones life forever.

Nick, North West Farmer
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #43  
I always hook up our PTO with the tractor running. Our blue tractor, which is the one that gets used for these tasks, has a transmission driven PTO. The PTO is always turned off when I get off the tractor, but the engine is always running. Once I start up the tractor, it stays running till I am done with what even I was doing and have parked it.

Ed
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #44  
i think we are forgetting 1 thing.on my new kubota i cant get off the tractor with the pto running.if i do itll kill the tractor right off.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #45  
i think we are forgetting 1 thing.on my new kubota i cant get off the tractor with the pto running.if i do itll kill the tractor right off.

I believe the OP's post asked about hooking up the PTO drive shaft with the tractor engine runing...not the tractor's PTO running (you'd have to be a lot quicker then I am to hook one up while running!!)
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #46  
your right roy,but then it got spun into the pto shaft coming on is why i said that.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #48  
This is so interesting.

As a relatively new tractor owner (115 hours), when I first read the headline of this thread, I thought EVERYONE would be screaming never get near (much less touch) the PTO while the engine was running.

I am still very wary of that PTO so I will continue to shut off the tractor before getting near that thing. Plus, I've drilled this concept into my 15 year old's head and don't want him to see me do the opposite.

MoKelly
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #49  
This is so interesting.

As a relatively new tractor owner (115 hours), when I first read the headline of this thread, I thought EVERYONE would be screaming never get near (much less touch) the PTO while the engine was running.

I am still very wary of that PTO so I will continue to shut off the tractor before getting near that thing. Plus, I've drilled this concept into my 15 year old's head and don't want him to see me do the opposite.

MoKelly


Good idea!! In fact, it wouldn't be a bad idea to teach yourself and especially your son to have the tractor's key in a pants pocket when hooking up.
I'm sure none of YOUR friends would do anything stupid, but 15 year old boys do things that are meant to be funny, but can have serious consequences...your son's friends are of that age.

Even now, I frequently have the key in my pocket when hooking up the PTO drive shaft.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #50  
Are there any documented cases of a PTO starting (assuming tractor is running, but PTO is off) while someone was hooking up an implement? Are there models of tractors that are known or notorious for this behavior?

Not disputing, just curious.
 

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