Wheel spacers to allow Tire Chains on 4310

[Deere Dude]

thanks all but no one answered my question. are all rims reversable or only certain ones?

I have a 3720 with wide R-4s and I reversed them but only gained an inch or so. I got spacers and put them on and then noticed as I was putting the tires to the normal mode again that there were some high spots or big dimples around the section where the bolt holes go through that was shiny metal from seating onto the hub. I think because of that, my lug nuts worked loose and I had a bigger problem.
Yours might be different than mine, but my seating area had something to be desired. I don't think mine were meant to be reversible.

 

[RoyJackson]

thanks all but no one answered my question. are all rims reversable or only certain ones?

I'll try this too...

Most wheels for R-3 Turfs and R-4 Industrial tires are reversible...however, that doesn't mean you'll see any advantage and you may even lose clearance.
Not sure about the Deere Ag rims though, since they have movable hubs.

Hope that answers your question...and don't reverse yours untill you measure the offset.

 

[foggy1111]

I have a 3720 with wide R-4s and I reversed them but only gained an inch or so. I got spacers and put them on and then noticed as I was putting the tires to the normal mode again that there were some high spots or big dimples around the section where the bolt holes go through that was shiny metal from seating onto the hub. I think because of that, my lug nuts worked loose and I had a bigger problem.
Yours might be different than mine, but my seating area had something to be desired. I don't think mine were meant to be reversible.

Did the problem occur from just reversing the JD wheels?....or did it result from using the spacers?

I'm pretty sure that the JD wheels for the 3x20 series are made to be reversible wheels.....and I saw the widths listed on the JD site. I also reversed my big R4's to pick up the inch per side....have not noticed any problems.

 

[Deere Dude]

Did the problem occur from just reversing the JD wheels?....or did it result from using the spacers?

I'm pretty sure that the JD wheels for the 3x20 series are made to be reversible wheels.....and I saw the widths listed on the JD site. I also reversed my big R4's to pick up the inch per side....have not noticed any problems.

Those worn spots came from reversing it, but I couldn't see the worn spots until I took the wheels off again to put spacers on it. The worn down spots were from riding on the hub of the tractor. This was before I put spacers on. If you ever take yours off, see if it was seated and riding on high spots, or is the whole center of the wheel seated flat.
Reversing mine didn't seem to make much difference in width visually, and not much for stability difference either. Spacers made all the difference in the world, at least to me.
With the wheels situated in the original configuration, the wheels fit flat on the spacers.

 

[RoyJackson]

Those worn spots came from reversing it, but I couldn't see the worn spots until I took the wheels off again to put spacers on it. The worn down spots were from riding on the hub of the tractor. This was before I put spacers on. If you ever take yours off, see if it was seated and riding on high spots, or is the whole center of the wheel seated flat.
Reversing mine didn't seem to make much difference in width visually, and not much for stability difference either. Spacers made all the difference in the world, at least to me.
With the wheels situated in the original configuration, the wheels fit flat on the spacers.

I'm thinking you didn't have the wheels properly mounted on the boss of the hub. The circular opening at the center of the wheel is concentric with the bolt hole circle. This circular opening should seat on that corresponding raised boss. It is a PITA to set the wheel on that boss, especially if you did the reversing by yourself.
That might explain why your wheel bolts didn't hold torque and those shiny spots you described.
Of course, you still may have not gotten as much clearance as you needed, even if my theory is correct.

 

[big e]

I'm glad my tractor has moveable hubs.
Does the 4310 not have them?

 

[Deere Dude]

I'm thinking you didn't have the wheels properly mounted on the boss of the hub. The circular opening at the center of the wheel is concentric with the bolt hole circle. This circular opening should seat on that corresponding raised boss. It is a PITA to set the wheel on that boss, especially if you did the reversing by yourself.
That might explain why your wheel bolts didn't hold torque and those shiny spots you described.
Of course, you still may have not gotten as much clearance as you needed, even if my theory is correct.

Negatory on that, Roy. The wheel was centered correctly on the boss on the hub and the bolts were torqued correctly, but what may have happened, as I read before on this forum, I didn't dutifully re-torque them like I should have. Maybe paint under the bolt flange would cause them to loosen, but I was really working the tractor with a lot of weight on at the time and that probably contributed to the looseness somewhat.

The non-drive wheel has the same marks around the wheel where high spots were seated, and that wheel never lost all that much torque over time.
I don't know, but it just seems to me that although the wheels should be able to be flipped, they don't seem to be in my case.
Maybe I have a Chinese wheel. :laughing: Or an American wheel and a Chinese tractor.

 

[rayclar]

I measured my rims today and it looks like i will gain close to 3" on each side.

 

[RoyJackson]

I'm glad my tractor has moveable hubs.
Does the 4310 not have them?

Only the wheels used for R-1 Ag tires.
Turfs and Industrials get welded wheels.

 

[RoyJackson]

I measured my rims today and it looks like i will gain close to 3" on each side.

Sounds about right...
This is really a two man job (as I wrote previously) especially if the tires are filled. Becareful when you reverse them and make sure you have plenty of room to jump out of the way if you lose one.

Have you decided which chains you want?