How much tractor is enough?

   / How much tractor is enough?
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#21  
The tractor would not be the only means of cutting grass, I have a riding mower and 3 Honda walk behinds as well.

I just wanted the MMM for times when I don't have time to cut, and it gets to long to bag (it grows VERY fast here, you have to cut everything once a week, sometimes every 5 days) With a MMM on a tractor I know I will have enough power to quickly cut the grass and spit it out.

I can understand not purchasing a backhoe from a financial point of view, but from sheer fun of having one, that can't be beat! We all have a little "kid" inside of us who still loves to play in the sandbox. I think I have enough projects coming that to rent a machine or pay someone would cost me about half of the cost of the backhoe. For another $3,000, I can have my own, and do it whenever I want to, my schedule, my way. We have hired a few different people to do backhoe work for us, and 8 times out of 10 they do not do the work as I asked them to, they leave a mess, or just plain take to long and charge for it.

I stumbled upon the new 270 backhoe on the forums last night, and I think that has sold me on the 2520. Obviously I will have to wait for one, as I see no one has any idea of when it is coming to market. My main hesitation for a 2520 was that it required a lot of work to mount and remove the backhoe, especially for someone like me who needs a MMM in place or ready to go on almost all of the time. If they truly did fix all of those problems, I will be impressed.

I also noticed, they upped the lift capacity on the 200CX loaders, to over 1,000 pounds now. Pretty impressive when you think a small machine like that can lift over half of it's own weight.

I had no idea the 2520 was so capable in such a compact package, with the money saved on going with it over the 3520, that pays for the other half of the backhoe itself.
 
   / How much tractor is enough?
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#22  
Anyone here noticed prices for us Canadians is through the roof?

Just got back from John Deere, price for a 2520 with FEL, $18,988!!! That INCLUDES $1,000 off if you buy a second implement. That seems quite overpriced. There are no other dealers around for hundreds of miles so they have no competition.

Also, 62 inch drive over deck, $2,998, so basically 3 grand. Does this not seem high?
 
   / How much tractor is enough? #23  
JDTank yes snow in the face was the only issue. Plus I wanted to sell this house an property an move to town but wife was againist it so the topic of a new tractor was her idea? I guess I'll be staying put for a while. The 2520 is more than enough tractor for most if not all your jobs, just may take a little while longer but who will argue with seat time, not me
 
   / How much tractor is enough? #24  
That seems high to me. I bought my 2520 11 months ago for 21,200.00 total including backhoe and 60" loader bucket,delivered. I believe the tractor and loader was around 15300.00. The backhoe is pretty good and I've seen them take out some huge trees on this forum. It just takes time and patience on the big stuff. I have the 46 BH and it usually takes about 15 minutes to install/take-off. I hear the new one will be great. I don't believe deere increased the loader capability...they have historically been conservative in ratings and just started rating them closer to true capacity. I have attached a picture of my 2520 lifting right at 1100 lbs (shipping label stated) and it lifted it full height.
 

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   / How much tractor is enough?
  • Thread Starter
#26  
Downside is the dealer did not seem to have a interest in budging. They are definitely aware of the fact that there is no other dealership even remotely close for them to compete with.

I will be waiting for the new backhoe I think. Now that I know it is coming, I would seriously kick myself if I ordered a 46 right now. I may still get everything else soon if I can get them to come down on price, there price is way to high.

Even on John Deeres website, when you "build your own" and you click US or Canadian pricing, it's automatically over $1,000 more for Canadian pricing!
 
   / How much tractor is enough? #27  
The tractor would not be the only means of cutting grass, I have a riding mower and 3 Honda walk behinds as well.

I just wanted the MMM for times when I don't have time to cut, and it gets to long to bag (it grows VERY fast here, you have to cut everything once a week, sometimes every 5 days) With a MMM on a tractor I know I will have enough power to quickly cut the grass and spit it out.

I can understand not purchasing a backhoe from a financial point of view, but from sheer fun of having one, that can't be beat! We all have a little "kid" inside of us who still loves to play in the sandbox. I think I have enough projects coming that to rent a machine or pay someone would cost me about half of the cost of the backhoe. For another $3,000, I can have my own, and do it whenever I want to, my schedule, my way. We have hired a few different people to do backhoe work for us, and 8 times out of 10 they do not do the work as I asked them to, they leave a mess, or just plain take to long and charge for it.

I stumbled upon the new 270 backhoe on the forums last night, and I think that has sold me on the 2520. Obviously I will have to wait for one, as I see no one has any idea of when it is coming to market. My main hesitation for a 2520 was that it required a lot of work to mount and remove the backhoe, especially for someone like me who needs a MMM in place or ready to go on almost all of the time. If they truly did fix all of those problems, I will be impressed.

I also noticed, they upped the lift capacity on the 200CX loaders, to over 1,000 pounds now. Pretty impressive when you think a small machine like that can lift over half of it's own weight.

I had no idea the 2520 was so capable in such a compact package, with the money saved on going with it over the 3520, that pays for the other half of the backhoe itself.


Good that you have riding and push mowers already. Justifying the backhoe, if you want one then get one, thats what I did. I also like stand alone mowers and backhoe loaders. I prefer not to have a fel on my tractors as it changes what is needed for ballast and their less compact. Yes, you can park the loader but then I would need to load up front weights, dont want to hassle with all of that each time.

This past summer 2520's were a good deal with discounted pricing, IIRC the 2720 has the discounts on implements currently and if you intended to mow quickly as you say I would consider the 2720 too.

Here in southern New Mexico I mow every Sunday morning, if I wait more than that it will get too tall. I would expect that 5 to 7 day periods between mowing is the norm. I have lived in some places in the deep south where you can almost see it grow. At any rate a mmm would work well for the semi lawn to smooth pasture areas. I would still use a light weight mower for the finished lawn areas around the house. My cheaper L130 does a good job for my lawn and being just a mower the deck is always in place ready to mow. when you buy an 8 in 1 tractor to handle the multi purpose jobs you do have to mount and dismount these attachments constantly.
 
   / How much tractor is enough?
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#28  
In all honesty, I don't have so many projects that I will be changing implements constantly. There will be times the tractor will sit for 3 weeks, maybe even a month without me touching it. This is another reason why I have told myself a 2520 is good enough, stepping into the 3000 series price range, to not use the tractor every week, seems a bit foolish.

I don't mind changing implements when the change over is quick, such as the quick park loaders, drive over decks, things like that. I plan on getting a rotary broom and a front blade, I know those involve about 20 minutes of work to change things, but even then, I don't mind. I am in no hurry to get any of these projects done and I intend to take my time and enjoy the tinkering as well as seat time equally. When I go out on the tractor I go out there for the entire day and just go leisurely.

Also, I wouldn't think I would need to add weights to the front for mowing with the mid mower. Any time I will have a rear implement on, the FEL will be on, I don't really have any tight areas, and the areas that are tight the 2520 is the perfect size for.

What valve options should I be ordering? I know power beyond for sure, give me future access to the BH, but what else? I don't want the independent deck lift, to many issues from what I hear, needing lots of adjustment to make it work right. So just route the dual mid SCV's to the rear right? I don't have a need for the diverter either.
 
   / How much tractor is enough? #30  
In all honesty, I don't have so many projects that I will be changing implements constantly. There will be times the tractor will sit for 3 weeks, maybe even a month without me touching it. This is another reason why I have told myself a 2520 is good enough, stepping into the 3000 series price range, to not use the tractor every week, seems a bit foolish.

I don't mind changing implements when the change over is quick, such as the quick park loaders, drive over decks, things like that. I plan on getting a rotary broom and a front blade, I know those involve about 20 minutes of work to change things, but even then, I don't mind. I am in no hurry to get any of these projects done and I intend to take my time and enjoy the tinkering as well as seat time equally. When I go out on the tractor I go out there for the entire day and just go leisurely.

Also, I wouldn't think I would need to add weights to the front for mowing with the mid mower. Any time I will have a rear implement on, the FEL will be on, I don't really have any tight areas, and the areas that are tight the 2520 is the perfect size for.

What valve options should I be ordering? I know power beyond for sure, give me future access to the BH, but what else? I don't want the independent deck lift, to many issues from what I hear, needing lots of adjustment to make it work right. So just route the dual mid SCV's to the rear right? I don't have a need for the diverter either.

Definitely wait for the 270 BH if you intend to do a MMM. The 46 BH is basically incompatible with the MMM, the front BH brackets need to removed and install everytime you switch and the 270 is supposed to fix the problem.

You can always get the 2520 now and order the BH this spring when they become available.
 

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