Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment?

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If a sprayer is used how much oil would be needed?
If it's less then a quart and only done once a year, is this really a horrible thing?
How much polution does the weekend warrier cause 4wheeling and mudding?
How much 2 stroke oil goes into the lakes rivers etc... from boat engines?
How much 2 stroke oil goes into the air from weed eating, chainsaws, RC airplanes etc?
How many old bombers out there with oil, fuel, transmission leaks are there that pass inspection?
Just curious, seems like some folks get tied in a knot about something simple that in the long run actualy would cause less pollution{not having to replace} I just wonder where the enviro police are when I see idiots doing burn outs? What is the stance on recreational vehicles? Then there is the biggy NASCAR "what a waste"!
I'm not saying I agree or disagree but I see more pollution going to wal-crap then I do in someone trying to keep their ole farm equipment in good shape.

 

[Dargo]

john morgan said it good.

wiped down diesel leaches good, and there are more effective ways to control rust.

not as easy or cheap.. but more effecive and environmentally friendly.

to save you some time.. before you start to argue with me.. I'm a civil engineer who did my thesis on water system engineering, potable and grey..

there is absolutely nothing you can 'argue' with me about that will make me thinking pouring diesel all over a tractor is 'great' for the environment.

so.. just saving you some typing there...

soundguy

I agree completely. IMHO, at best, it's a waste of good fuel. However, I have personally seen and am 100% convinced that spraying Fluid Film on equipment not only works well, but is NOT harmful to the environment.

Do your own test. Take a 12" piece of unpainted or untreated flat bar steel. Dip 6" in diesel fuel. Then hold a piece of cardboard over that part and spray the other half with Fluid Film. Leave outdoors for 6 months and compare the results.

If it's an expensive piece and I want to keep it for years and years, I use POR 15 and do it right. POR15, Inc. - Stop Rust Permanently - Repair Gas & Fuel Tanks You'll spend a little more money and a little more time, but your will stop your corrosion issues. As many know, I am a very small scale collector of 60's era muscle cars. Even ones I travelled all the way to southern Arizona or New Mexico to buy that were rust free, I treated them with POR 15 as one of the first processes in off frame restorations. I live in an area with very, very high humidity and have seen almost priceless old cars rust away in storage facilities and barns that are not 100% climate controlled. Rust is cancer. I HATE it! I hate working on rusty stuff. The worst was when a guy brought me an old '71 Super Beetle and told me to just replace the 'bad metal'. After wasting hours and hours of my time, I told him that he was going to have to give me a better description of what he considered good metal since most of his "find" was relatively fresh filler that was starting to bubble off since it was not properly sealed from the back side.

There are other companies that I'm told have products that are similar in quality to POR 15 products, but I have not personally used them. They may very well be of similar quality. I'm one who has a tendency to stick with something when it proves over the test of time to be a good, no, great product/line of products. But, for a 'quickie' that will work, get on flea bay and buy a case or a half a case of fluid film and spray away. You'll be amazed. You can also buy FF in cans where you can brush it on as well. In my case it just seems that all the places I need to get covered are places I cannot reach with a brush. Seriously, even though it costs more, FF will last that much longer than diesel fuel or WD40 (Water Displacement, 40th version), silicone sprays etc. that it does justify it's higher price. Just don't walk into a shop and pay full retail (plus) for a single can.

The best of luck to all of you fellow tractorheads. Rust is our enemy and is indeed just like cancer.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

as bare foot farm apparrently see's it.. unless you are a chem eng, it don't matter.

LOL

My point is you being a "civil engineer" doesn't make your OPINION on this topic any more valid than anyone else's, and saying " and don't argue with me because ....." just lessens any credibility you may have had.

No one is "pouring" (as you called it) huge amounts of fuel on their equipment

Trying to claim you know so much that no one can argue their side, and then coming back and saying "I'll say this and leave the thread" sort of makes you look childish, (in my opinion) and I feel sure you'll be back anyway.

When you're trying to convince folks of your superior intelligence and wisdom, it would help if you'd spell things correctly.
Especially the words that are already right there in front of you, like
BEAR Foot Farm

I'll monitor this thread but won't reply any, in case any of you MEN post your address to the site you intentionally contaminated.

LOL

First it's "I'm not going to play any more", and now it's "Im gonna tell!"

:laughing:

 

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Wow folks, lets not attack each other, after all we're just talking oil. Seems like all oil topics get into a huge depate .
I understand why Soundguy posted what he did, I also understand why those that would do this posted what they did. I have to say just because there is a law against it doesn't mean anything except the powers to be found yet another way to get $$$ out of Joe Public. Like I said there are MANY MORE things that cause WAY more pollution then Billy Bob farmer spraying his equipment to stop rust. If we are to freak out as a society on Billy Bob then why aren't we stopping the real polltuion makers? I can tell you why MONEY, some times things just happen because money and power are to be gained. How much pollution is in the cosmetic world, how about pharmaceuticals, pesticides and so forth. If ANYONE thinks Billy Bob rust retarder is the cause of all evil pollution in this world then I really do feel sorry for the human race!!!!

 

[GPintheMitten]

Wow folks, lets not attack each other, after all we're just talking oil. Seems like all oil topics get into a huge depate .
I understand why Soundguy posted what he did, I also understand why those that would do this posted what they did. I have to say just because there is a law against it doesn't mean anything except the powers to be found yet another way to get $$$ out of Joe Public. Like I said there are MANY MORE things that cause WAY more pollution then Billy Bob farmer spraying his equipment to stop rust. If we are to freak out as a society on Billy Bob then why aren't we stopping the real polltuion makers? I can tell you why MONEY, some times things just happen because money and power are to be gained. How much pollution is in the cosmetic world, how about pharmaceuticals, pesticides and so forth. If ANYONE thinks Billy Bob rust retarder is the cause of all evil pollution in this world then I really do feel sorry for the human race!!!!

Just because others pollute more, even, much more, doesn't justify doing it in a small scale.

There are too many people on the planet to think that each of us can pollute it just a little, and it won't matter. That might have been fine when there were only a billion of us, but we are 7 billion now.

 

[beppington]

Wow, this thread will soon have to be moved to the Friendly Politics forum

 

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Just because others pollute more, even, much more, doesn't justify doing it in a small scale.

There are too many people on the planet to think that each of us can pollute it just a little, and it won't matter. That might have been fine when there were only a billion of us, but we are 7 billion now.

Agreed, my ONLY point is that there are lots of "legal" ways to pollute, way more then Billy Bob. Stopping Billy Bob is a tiny % of 1% of the real problem. Making Billy Bob go to jail or pay ridiculous fines is just another example of government power and greed. If we all cared so much then we tackle the real polluters, but then again what would we do for past time? I do believe the human race has to figure out it's priorities in order for the planet to live on. Sorry, but a lynch mob going after BB isn't going to solve anything. Making BB pay heavy ridiculous fines only helps line the pockets of those that are in charge of corrupting the US in the 1st place. One of the oldest tricks in the book, make everyone watch the left hand, that way they don't see what the right hand is up too. In other words it's easier to attack the commoner.


So with that ramble, I hope you understand I am not for dumping oil, just figure there are much bigger fish to fry.

 

[Fixemall]

One cup of diesel will coat a 7' tiller, two bush hogs and a finish mower if applied with an automotive paint gun. I recommend doing it on a plastic covered concrete floor, not that there is many drips.

 

[Scooby074]

Ugg.

How much diesel are we talking here? a quart? 2? And its being applied to the frame, so how much reaches the ground? 1/2 pint? Maybe at the most?

It not like somebody is taking a 5 gallon and dumping it directly on the ground, More fuel is spilled during a typical refueling (balancing a gas can, missing the funnel etc etc) then ever hits the ground when rust proofing.

To go even further, even the commercially bought rust proofings are essentially petroleum distillates. Should we not use those either?

 

[Dargo]

One cup of diesel will coat a 7' tiller, two bush hogs and a finish mower if applied with an automotive paint gun. I recommend doing it on a plastic covered concrete floor, not that there is many drips.

All you will accomplish is wasting one cup of diesel fuel. Benefits, you will have NONE! I HIGHLY recommend NOT doing anything this poster recommends. It is illegal, wasteful, and serves no purpose that can be considered beneficial.