Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment?

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   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #21  
Prevention is the best medicine.

Here in MN, any machinery subject to freeze-thaw cycles gets a lot of condensation which can result in rust pretty quickly.

Fertilizer is also brutal on stuff.

Paint is the best.

In the absence of paint, or the ability to use paint on metal surfaces, a coating of oil sure beats early rustout. Usually, though, by the time you start hitting the thing with oil, the cancer has started.

Different measures for different situations. Most northern farmers machine sheds are probably technically waste dumps, but noone wants to open that can of worms.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #22  
Prevention is the best medicine.

Here in MN, any machinery subject to freeze-thaw cycles gets a lot of condensation which can result in rust pretty quickly.

Fertilizer is also brutal on stuff.

Paint is the best.

In the absence of paint, or the ability to use paint on metal surfaces, a coating of oil sure beats early rustout. Usually, though, by the time you start hitting the thing with oil, the cancer has started.

Different measures for different situations. Most northern farmers machine sheds are probably technically waste dumps, but noone wants to open that can of worms.

But on an average size farm that run used eq the cancer is already there and with 30-40 or more pieces of eqipment , a lot of which is bought and sold yearly paint is not a practical answer !

I'm as bad as anyone for throwing oil and diesel around but very little ever reaches the ground...?
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #23  
I'm a civil engineer who did my thesis on water system engineering, potable and grey..

I don't see "chemical engineering " in there, so you can't convince me it's any more harmful than most other oil based rust preventatives.

No one is dumping gallons of it.

A fine MIST will cover a large area with a small quantity, and it stays on the equipment a long time

I'd bet it does a lot less damage to the environment than building a municipal water system
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #24  
I do the same thing but cut it with some clean 20w ND oil,gives a little "thicker" oil coating.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #25  
Here in MN, any machinery subject to freeze-thaw cycles gets a lot of condensation which can result in rust pretty quickly.

Here in Florida condensation is a nightly event - it doesn't take freeze/thaw to have a wet tractor first thing in the morning.

... Does the equipment just set out in the rain year around? ...

Yes, our equipment sits out 24/7. However, we do not spray ours with anything. I find that frequent use helps keep the rust down. Also, we do keep our stuff greased. So what, you may ask? In another post someone asked what people used to "wipe off the grease that comes out when you grease". That is the point ... we don't wipe it off - we just don't over grease. By leaving the grease on the tractor at grease fittings and the grease boots keeps grease on the tractor at those critical spots where rust can do major damage.

As far as rust on the sheet metal parts of the tractor - occasional cleaning and some spray paint will take care of that.

For things like disks and such, the Florida sand does just as much damage as the rust and there is no way to diminish that.

Of course, though we have our tractors and equipment outside in the weather year round, we do not have to contend with the "environmentally safe" practice of spreading salt on the roads :cool:

But then, it all depends on where in Florida you live ... the salty air can do more damage then any of the other issues like rain and dew and even salt on the roads ... and you can't do much about the salt in the air.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #26  
Diesel "once cured" by a drive down the only road to my place is pretty "inert" as well.



diesel doesn't cure.

And yes, I am a rocket scientist!

as bare foot farm apparrently see's it.. unless you are a chem eng, it don't matter. No rockets on the road eh?


soundguy

with this post, I'm leaving the thread.. nothing usefull happens once you have a group that is ok with pouring fuel on the ground.

BTDT many times in these threads.

if you think it's a real non issue.. be a REAL man and post your address where you do the fuel pouring.. I'd be happy to forward them to the DEP.. that can and do fine and imprison people for this. hit their website and see the case listings.

My favorite one is the guy doing weed control with diesel. big fine.. big time...

I'll monitor this thread but won't reply any, in case any of you MEN post your address to the site you intentionally contaminated.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #27  
you'd be surprised how benign an asphalt road is. read a msds on special MS water asphalt emulsion.

It's quite environmentally inert once in place and cured.

soudnguy

Isn't it interesting that asphalt paving in a roadway is considered "environmentally inert" , but if it's removed from the roadway it immediately becomes hazardous material and must be handled as such.

Yes most jurisdictions ignore it, but it is an EPA rule.

Ask any ENVIROMMENTAL engineer.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #28  
diesel doesn't cure.



if you think it's a real non issue.. be a REAL man and post your address where you do the fuel pouring.. I'd be happy to forward them to the DEP.. that can and do fine and imprison people for this. hit their website and see the case listings.

My favorite one is the guy doing weed control with diesel. big fine.. big time...

I'll monitor this thread but won't reply any, in case any of you MEN post your address to the site you intentionally contaminated.


Holy over reaction!
 
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   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #29  
Pretty much anything we humans do is bad for the "mother earth" when you look at it from an environmentalist's point of view. Mining for the pigments for paint leaves a big scar in the earth. The fact that mining, distibuting, and building a tractor or implement from raw materials is very hard on the environment, I would say that I, for one, am not convinced that spraying a small amount of diesel oil on a tractor is actually a bad thing if it preserves the machine's life and makes it last longer so that a replacent machine doesn't have to be made as soon.
 
   / Spraying Diesel on Old Equipment? #30  
Living in the rust belt of Western Mass I have found that WD-40 or its generic equilivant from Wal-Mart and white lithium grease in an aerosol can works well.
I spray wd40 on the parts to be protected then the white grease to seal it.
The WD-40 penetrates into the cracks and when the white grease is applied it is thinned and wicked into the rust, flaking paint or parting lines of the parts or sheet metal.
No dripping no mess & might even be legal in the eyes of the bad guys.
Also; I rarely pressure wash to remove grease & oily residue as I feel it keeps rust from getting a foot hold.
I'd rather look at grease and fuel & oil stained paint covered with dust & chaff than rust. I do however keep the radiator & any critical areas clean.
As a note;
I've found white grease to be quite durable under vehicles (cars & trucks). It resists washout from road spray even under the wheel wells of vehicles!
Works for me!
Tim
 
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