Air Pistol, accurate and powerful?

[k0ua]

Maybe this- Benjamin Rogue .357 cal ePCP Air Rifle- Revolutionary New Technology! - AirgunDepot.com

But the price (list $1500) makes it a little hard to justify for many of us

Wow, that is a lot of airgun,I am not sure they will sell a lot of those at that price. Complicated looking thing too.

James K0UA

 

[toppop52]

I own a PCP rifle that was custom "tuned" by a friend/gunsmith, it will fire .22 Diabolo style ammo at well over 1100 fps, but it's loud, long and in the way for some uses. The copperheads are plentiful in that area and I'm often several hundred yds from the tractor/truck whatever, so a shovel ain't the answer. And if one of the dogs/hogs/coyotes/ meth heads (mostly joking) shows up, I want to be able to at least slow him down enough to get the he!! out of there. I guess the pistol with sub-sonic rounds may be the answer.

 

[toppop52]

As for why I ask on a tractor site about pistols, there are more know it all's hear than I've ever seen in one place!:laughing::laughing::thumbsup:

 

[daveshoot]

Back to the OP question:

PCP or CO2 are going to be the way to go. The hottest spring pistols only deliver "700 fps" with lightweight alloy pellets that are useless for anything over gophers.

In spring guns, top contenders might be the HW-45 (or Beeman P1), RWS LP-8, or the Browning 800 Express (most cost-effective). Spring pistols are hard to shoot well and never deliver the advertised velocities with hunting weight pellets. None of them are adequate for coyote.

PCPs are amazing, and have come a long way in a few years. The very top of my list is the Crosman Marauder Pistol, often known as the "P-rod" on the forum cited earlier. I have one in .22 and it will produce a silent 660 fps, very accurately. Downsides are size (long), and the fact that you need a tank or specialized pump to charge it. Also the fpe of this gun is not adequate for coyotes, although it will kill rabbits, squirrels, etc well out to 25 yards. It comes with a shoulder stock and frankly I only use it in this carbine mode.

Evanix has the AR-6 PCP pistol that is a hammer. It is also large-ish, and LOUD, being unmoderated (this is by comparison to other airguns, not powder burners). If noise is not much of an issue, you should look this one up.

A new and somewhat spendy alternative would be the TalonP pistol in .25 with 50 fpe of power. It will kill a coyote. It is also LOUD. I am somewhat interested in this gun but I will let others work out the bugs and get some miles on them.

PCP rifles can easily take coyote and larger game, but you asked about pistols.

Know-it-all heard from! :laughing:

 

[om21braz]

I can't use a firearm where I need this. Too near the airport. Am I asking for voo doo? I need a side arm vs rifle if possible.

Is a shotgun (Snake Charmer/Judge .410) absolutely out of the question/illegal? We once had a skeet/trap range on land leased from a fairly large airport authority - probably less than 3/4 mile from the main strip.

 

[daveshoot]

I skipped over CO2 because I am not a big fan of gas guns and simply don't have much experience with them. The Crosman 22xx series is a big favorite with airgunners and someone more knowledgeable may comment. I have an old 150 in ..22 that has very respectable power for small game.

One other category that I skipped is multi-pumpers, which have the advantage of being self-contained. If you like to work on such things there are endless mods for power and they can get pretty competitive for single shots, although I would still never point one at a coyote.

The Crosman 1377c is a .177 gun (they quit making the .22 but sometimes you can find them used). There are a jillion mod kits for them and you can make them into respectable killers. You will pump 8 times for each shot (more with some of the mods) but you don't need any additional equipment, and they have better shooting and trigger characteristics than spring pistols.

The Benjamin HB-22 is another pumper upper, more expensive than the 1377 and less mod-able. I'm sure I'm forgetting some good ones.

Just thought I would throw these in as full disclosure.

 

[dmccarty]

How the heck do you shoot a snake in the head from behind your back while running away:laughing:

It takes practice! Lots of practice!

Later,
Dan

 

[toppop52]

Is a shotgun (Snake Charmer/Judge .410) absolutely out of the question/illegal? We once had a skeet/trap range on land leased from a fairly large airport authority - probably less than 3/4 mile from the main strip.

The fishing hole is 300 yds from the southwest end of one runway, it's on county owned, not for development property, so firearms are prohibited. If I complained, I expect I'd be invited to hang out somewhere else.

 

[toppop52]

Thanks guys, the info is getting better! I doubt I will ever have to defend myself from a predatory animal at this location, but it's not out of the question. There are even a handful of cougars (4 legged) on the peninsula, everybody knows it but DNR won't admit it, and black bear are making a comeback. I'm not trying to kill a bear, or fend of a pack of these eastern coyote's with wolf DNA. At most i want to keep a single animal at bay if needed, long enough to get away. The snake situation and possibly a dog, coyote, etc... are the most likely and even that is remote, but if it did arise, I can't be pumping 7-8 times between shots, so I need something that can repeat a few times with adequate power to deter, if not kill. I don't want to leave a wounded animal out there, but I see it as better than leaving me out there.
I currently carry my little .38 in my pocket because it hides easily in the event a DNR rep shows up. I don't plan to hunt and won't be out there much in severe weather when the animals are likely to be more aggressive, just looking for insurance.

 

[sweettractors]

Is there really a reasonable weight .22 + - air pistol that has big impact at close range? Would love to have one that would stop a coyote or equivalent at 25 yards and repeat 6-8 shots. PCP seems like the answer but they tend to be bulky. I can't use a firearm where I need this. Too near the airport. Am I asking for voo doo? I need a side arm vs rifle if possible.

I have a Hahn CO2 powered BB revolver pistol. It will shoot through both sides of a tin can at max charge, however, would not have the knockdown power you need? Ken Sweet