bruce1966us
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This is a common problem. 2 gears need to be replaced. Call me 9314920316
Popping out of gear
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Why cant you just tell me the common problem, why the need for a phone call???
I have my doubts any wear in that gear box is caused by Yanmar not building the trans right in the first place like not getting the clearances right thats absurd.
My guess is like I said some hack had been into it is it a VN by chance?
edit: In my professional opinion the start of this problem (long before 8ball got it) was contaminated lube or the lack of it causing a cascade effect on all related parts. Bearings being the #1 thing to create an out of alignment situation simple as that it could be abuse but most likely lube related and subsequently improperly repaired.
Forks and slider pads machined into gears dont wear just because there is .020" too much clearance as long as there is lube.
My guess is like I said some hack had been into it is it a VN by chance?
edit: In my professional opinion the start of this problem (long before 8ball got it) was contaminated lube or the lack of it causing a cascade effect on all related parts. Bearings being the #1 thing to create an out of alignment situation simple as that it could be abuse but most likely lube related and subsequently improperly repaired.
Forks and slider pads machined into gears dont wear just because there is .020" too much clearance as long as there is lube.
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Cardoc, I can't see your face so I don't know if I upset you with my post about the fork clearance. If I did, I apologize. I only posted the clearance so 8ball could check it if he wants too. Didn't mean to be questioning anything you said. I have come to have a high opinion of your opinions. :thumbsup:
Oh no winston not at all darn it thats the problem with the as I refer to it 1 dimensional internet so I agree with not seeing my face thats it in a nut shell cant see the body language etc so no problem dont give it a second thought my friend!
I knew exactly what you said was facts intended for 8ball and I was more in the teaching a student or employee mode for 8ball than anything so I apologize I get that way too often and go off the deep end in my explanations.
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Actually now I look back I was more commenting on where Mr. doppelganger was headed with the help he was offering not that it was in any way not correct but taking the "common" problem thing maybe a little to literally. In 30 years of rebuilding all sorts of gear boxs I never see a wear pattern like 8balls that wasn't caused by an out of alignment situation and a lack of lube and that is never ever because the tranys are not machined properly.
quote"that is comon on forks in a large number of gear boxes. It just shows the machineing was not perfect."
In my humble (hopefully spelled correctly) opinion.
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I'm going to put in my 2 cents. But I just can't see blaming Just the VN's for poor quality. Like They say Opinions Are Like !!!holes everybody has one. I have one also as to were the poor VN Quality Started in the first place. But not going there Again. When I started looking for a small compact there are two local Yanmar Dealers close to me I looked at. They were the absolute Worst in Quality,Parts and Workmanship and Price. And niether are VN's. Thank goodness I drove all the way to the other side of ATL. to Spalding And bought one from him. He's UTDA Fredricks supplied refurbs but I passed and bought one from him as is. It's been over 3yrs since I bought it and I've only put Maybe 300$ in parts in it. Rebuilt starter a Seal or two And Throttle parts including Maint. filters Etc. And the only thing that doesn't work correctly on it is the Blinkers:laughing: He was up front with me about it but wouldn't admit to were it come from which was understandable.My bet it was a trade in VN'er. I was so pleased I had another tractor Purchased from him that was a refurb. It wasn't for me and dealing with him over the Yrs. His word was "As Good As Gold" and to the day I have not heard the first complaint about it. And of course Steve Knows Who it was for So basicly I have been involved first hand with both and it boils down to The Excellent Yanmar Qaulity Tractor :thumbsup: Not were it was improted from. Again Just IMO. I seen that also Barry but Of course IMO that wouldn't prevent it from going into all gears.
So basicly I have been involved first hand with both and it boils down to The Excellent Yanmar Qaulity Tractor :thumbsup: Not were it was improted from. Again Just IMO. I seen that also Barry but Of course IMO that wouldn't prevent it from going into all gears.
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I didn't get time to put it together and check for looseness, in the middle of getting several home improve projects done. I asked hoye for their opinion and sent them pics. They said possibly the shift lever guide may be faulty.
I know that fluid is nasty. Plan on draining, changing and cleaning out that screen over the winter.
I know that fluid is nasty. Plan on draining, changing and cleaning out that screen over the winter.
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[QUOTE Also Were the bottom of the "Shift Lever" or the Shaft Looks Awful Shiney "alot of Wear" And thats what Sits in the "Shift lever Guide". That would Create alot of Play not letting the "Shaft" move the "Shifter fork" far enough to Engage the Gears or lock in the Detent.[/QUOTE]
There two with about the same opinion on the problem. Being from Hoye I think thier's would be as as good as it gets without having it in hand And on my other reply on the VN'er 8ball the refurb was for a retired Catholic Priest. He's
From Chicago Yeap!
There two with about the same opinion on the problem. Being from Hoye I think thier's would be as as good as it gets without having it in hand
And on my other reply on the VN'er 8ball the refurb was for a retired Catholic Priest. He's From Chicago
Yeap!bruce1966us
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8ball3290 said:
A 2 minute phone call can save hours of internet surfing.
I know I am always trying to learn and am interested in a little more elaboration here. I feel like other followers are too. Please! :licking:
I haven't figured that one out either makes no sense to me either. Maybe he is more interested in helping himself than you and the rest of the YM2000 owners?
clemsonfor
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Im with you, not saying he is trying to make money by selling you some part he has but ...
Bruce all you need to say is something like yea i have fixed two just like that.
Its probly main shaft bearing causing wobble and bending a fork etc. Call me and i will explain how to get it out as i dont want to type a book.
That way if anyone else has a problem in the future they can see what is most likely the cause and not have to "call" you. The OP can then choose to work on it or take it to a MEchanic then tell us that Bruce was right and what he said was the problem, but i dont know how to explain it or something. Once we know what needs to happen im sure someone on here can tellus how to get it out and then what needs to be replaced.
Bruce all you need to say is something like yea i have fixed two just like that.
Its probly main shaft bearing causing wobble and bending a fork etc. Call me and i will explain how to get it out as i dont want to type a book.
That way if anyone else has a problem in the future they can see what is most likely the cause and not have to "call" you. The OP can then choose to work on it or take it to a MEchanic then tell us that Bruce was right and what he said was the problem, but i dont know how to explain it or something. Once we know what needs to happen im sure someone on here can tellus how to get it out and then what needs to be replaced.
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Guys don't hammer on Bruce. We've seen one dealer leave here after too many people argued with him over stuff he knew thoroughly. Lets not drive away anyone else.
He's a valuable source for replacement engines etc. If his conversational style doesn't match yours, just accept it and move on. We can't afford to drive away a source of less common parts.
Hey Bruce ... now I want a discount if I buy something.
He's a valuable source for replacement engines etc. If his conversational style doesn't match yours, just accept it and move on. We can't afford to drive away a source of less common parts.
Hey Bruce ... now I want a discount if I buy something.
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But In this case it may be just the opposite of "Who" May be getting drove away. And drive away the potential customer is the worst thing to do for a buisness. Also on the Dealer I believe your refering to it wasn't just the customers. It's was the Manufacturer. Slap out of the Country LOL.
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clemsonfor
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California, i know what i wrote sounds like im beating the guy up. But like my wife says im blunt and i call it like i see it.
Im not intending to sound harsh or drive anyone off. But the way it was written sounds bad. All he needs to say is something like its to wordy to post.
Ok Im not trying to start trouble.
Im not intending to sound harsh or drive anyone off. But the way it was written sounds bad. All he needs to say is something like its to wordy to post.
Ok Im not trying to start trouble.
I ordered the part today and some minor misc parts. I don't know when I'll get back down there, prolly be a few weeks. Got mowers in at the local Deere dealer to get serviced, so I probably won't head down to my farm till they call for pickup. Thank to all that gave advise, I sure hope this fixes it.
