Wood Burning Insurance Policy

[lampmfg]

Looks nice, made in my state.

Sometimes electronic controls are finicky or get zapped - seem to hear that a lot of late in stoves. Makes a person wonder when it's an advertized feature, but the way things are I guess.

My house is set up for a wood boiler furnace, so not for me. Otherwise I'd look closer at it.

Since the house is set up for wood heat, indoor furnace is much easier - don't have to dress up to go feed the fire. Got a wood room so no big mess.

--->Paul

We get people who are skeptical of the electronic controls from time to time so I can understand your concern. However usually we have problems with less then 5 or so per year and they are normally repaired for around $50. To replace the whole computer your looking at about $300, which compared to most appliances is reasonable.

Without the computer it's humanly impossible to get a smokeless burn doing it manually. We've spent thousands of hours testing and perfecting this furnace and our test results speak for themselves.

 

[MasseyWV]

Without the computer it's humanly impossible to get a smokeless burn doing it manually. We've spent thousands of hours testing and perfecting this furnace and our test results speak for themselves.

A computerized fireplace... What's next?

 

[brokenknee]

We get people who are skeptical of the electronic controls from time to time so I can understand your concern. However usually we have problems with less then 5 or so per year and they are normally repaired for around $50. To replace the whole computer your looking at about $300, which compared to most appliances is reasonable.

Without the computer it's humanly impossible to get a smokeless burn doing it manually. We've spent thousands of hours testing and perfecting this furnace and our test results speak for themselves.

Did the cost to repair the electronic controls go down? In this thread you said $100 post nine,

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/232941-how-much-do-you-value.html

Here is what you said. "3. The cost of computer replacement is about $300 and anyone can replace it. It's a solid state 24 volt circuit board. We only get a couple per year and they normally can just be repaired for under $100."

 

[brokenknee]

But then you still have to cut and carry in all that firewood. I'm replacing my woodburning fireplace with a propane fireplace this summer for that very reason.

Being from West Virgina, heating isn't as much as an issue as for us in little cooler climates.

I do not burn wood because it is a carbon neutral source of heat, nor do I burn it because of the health benefits that are derived from cutting, splitting, stacking and carrying in the wood to the stove. I burn it because I am cheap.

 

[lampmfg]

Did the cost to repair the electronic controls go down? In this thread you said $100 post nine,

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/232941-how-much-do-you-value.html

Here is what you said. "3. The cost of computer replacement is about $300 and anyone can replace it. It's a solid state 24 volt circuit board. We only get a couple per year and they normally can just be repaired for under $100."

Good catch, but I did say under a $100.

Nothing wrong with being cheap, because I'm always looking to save where ever possible and with our proven furnace efficiency you can't burn wood any cheaper...

 

[MasseyWV]

I do not burn wood because it is a carbon neutral source of heat, nor do I burn it because of the health benefits that are derived from cutting, splitting, stacking and carrying in the wood to the stove. I burn it because I am cheap.

There's nothing wrong with trying to save a buck or two. In my case, I'm switching to propane because our fireplace is mainly used as an emergency heat source.

 

[clemsonfor]

Good catch, but I did say under a $100.

Nothing wrong with being cheap, because I'm always looking to save where ever possible and with our proven furnace efficiency you can't burn wood any cheaper...

Efficient yes im sure. CHEAP i doubt buying your system and installing in can remotely be called cheap. I admit i have not clicked the link but have an idea what it is and what it may run.

I too thought this thread was gonna be a complaint about insurance or about how to obtain it after a burner install.

I have an indoor FP insert. It a cat model stove. I have not used my heatpump this season (although its been a mild winter i know), and install last february saved $100 over the previous year in feb.

Whats the pay off in years for your system vs a similar system thats not as fancy (ie computer controlle). Whats the pay off vs installing a high effeciency wood stove stand alone unit in your home like the eglander 30 or a blazeking king? Yes these are indoors but i wonder if the cheaper cost will allow a quicker rate of return, well im sure it will. After all recooping your investment as fast as possible is what folks intodays tough times are after. They either need to pay the loan off fast or want that money back in the account for other things if needed.

I really am curious, one day id love to have an outdoor wood boiler/heating system. My problem is that i dont have $6k for one right now. Which is why i went with my used $900 stove that i purchased instead. Did i mention i too am cheap?

 

[brokenknee]

Good catch, but I did say under a $100.

Nothing wrong with being cheap, because I'm always looking to save where ever possible and with our proven furnace efficiency you can't burn wood any cheaper...

Yep, you did say under $100, curious do you repair the control right at your shop or do you send them out? What is the most common failure of the unit?

 

[brokenknee]

Efficient yes im sure. CHEAP i doubt buying your system and installing in can remotely be called cheap. I admit i have not clicked the link but have an idea what it is and what it may run.

I too thought this thread was gonna be a complaint about insurance or about how to obtain it after a burner install.

I have an indoor FP insert. It a cat model stove. I have not used my heatpump this season (although its been a mild winter i know), and install last february saved $100 over the previous year in feb.

Whats the pay off in years for your system vs a similar system thats not as fancy (ie computer controlle). Whats the pay off vs installing a high effeciency wood stove stand alone unit in your home like the eglander 30 or a blazeking king? Yes these are indoors but i wonder if the cheaper cost will allow a quicker rate of return, well im sure it will. After all recooping your investment as fast as possible is what folks intodays tough times are after. They either need to pay the loan off fast or want that money back in the account for other things if needed.

I really am curious, one day id love to have an outdoor wood boiler/heating system. My problem is that i don't have $6k for one right now. Which is why i went with my used $900 stove that i purchased instead. Did i mention i too am cheap?

I am also on the fence about upgrading my system, The owb that I have looked at are much closer to ten grand or more installed. Seems you can purchase the boiler for 6 grand or so, 8 for a gassier but then there is another two to three grand for parts and installation.

I am also considering just upgrading my wood furnace to something a little newer, I am seriously considering the op stove, but again that is a good chunk of money.

I think a owb would be my first choice as I would like to get the fire/smoke out of the house. I also am wondering when the next increase for my home owners insurance for burning with wood. I pay $75 bucks a year now to burn wood, but can see that rising in the near future.

 

[clemsonfor]

I am also on the fence about upgrading my system, The owb that I have looked at are much closer to ten grand or more installed. Seems you can purchase the boiler for 6 grand or so, 8 for a gassier but then there is another two to three grand for parts and installation.

I am also considering just upgrading my wood furnace to something a little newer, I am seriously considering the op stove, but again that is a good chunk of money.

I think a owb would be my first choice as I would like to get the fire/smoke out of the house. I also am wondering when the next increase for my home owners insurance for burning with wood. I pay $75 bucks a year now to burn wood, but can see that rising in the near future.

I have a stove insert. The fire is contained in the unit and the smoke goes up the chimney, i dont have anysmoke smell in my house, or as your just saying in general that its running through a chimney attached to your home?

10 grand is a lot of money. Some insurance dosent have an increase for wood stove over a fireplace etc or at all. If yours jacks you again i would look and shop around. But even if they double that wood premium you still cant pay the note on a 10 grand loan for the new gassifier, or call that worth it to for out 10 grand outta pocket. And dont forget you still will need to cut and split the wood or even buck n split if you but treelength dropped off, if your a new burner.