Impliments for DK40se HST w/FEL

[MtnViewRanch]

IT,but a loader rated for 2760lbs to full height can easily exceed 3000lb lift to lower levels???
What does that mean???

Not IT, but every loader has a rated capacity, most only rate to a full height lift. Some , not sure which ones, will rate at 12" 36" & 60" lift height. At all of those lift heights, the loader will physically pick up more weight than what it is rated for at a full height lift. My Mahindra 7520 is rated to lift 3900lbs to full height, about 11 feet. I have lifted over 6000lbs 24" off the ground. It would not go any higher, actually it was 22" off the ground.

 

[IslandTractor]

Not IT, but every loader has a rated capacity, most only rate to a full height lift. Some , not sure which ones, will rate at 12" 36" & 60" lift height. At all of those lift heights, the loader will physically pick up more weight than what it is rated for at a full height lift. My Mahindra 7520 is rated to lift 3900lbs to full height, about 11 feet. I have lifted over 6000lbs 24" off the ground. It would not go any higher, actually it was 22" off the ground.

Exactly. I raised the point just to show that the margin of safety with 3000lb forks is smaller when on the KL401 loader. The flip side of this is that 3000lb forks don't bend or break when loaded with 3100lb loads. I would imagine they are pretty conservatively rated.

 

[MotorSeven]

I don't know and didn't ask what size/rating my forks were when I bought them. I picked them up when I picked up the tractor and my dealer sells a lot of them. I have used them way more than anticipated while building my house. I have noticed some wear/bending on the rails the forks sit and slide on. The forks themselves are fine which I would guess are a harder alloy steel then the rails/frame. Eventually I may have to do a repair if the damage gets worse, so if you have an option to buy any attachment HEAVY DUTY...do it!

 

[kiotiken]

Exactly. I raised the point just to show that the margin of safety with 3000lb forks is smaller when on the KL401 loader. The flip side of this is that 3000lb forks don't bend or break when loaded with 3100lb loads. I would imagine they are pretty conservatively rated.

Just to add that the weight of the forks themselves count and reduce the available lift capacity. So, the KL401's 2700 lbs is down to around 2300lbs with the forks attached, maybe less depending on where it's measured. I'd look more at the breakout force that it's rated at and subtract the weight of the forks from that.

If there's little additional cost to going with the 3700lbs rated forks and they don't weigh significantly more (reduces remaining lift capacity), that's how I'd go.

 

[IslandTractor]

Just to add that the weight of the forks themselves count and reduce the available lift capacity. So, the KL401's 2700 lbs is down to around 2300lbs with the forks attached, maybe less depending on where it's measured. I'd look more at the breakout force that it's rated at and subtract the weight of the forks from that.

If there's little additional cost to going with the 3700lbs rated forks and they don't weigh significantly more (reduces remaining lift capacity), that's how I'd go.

You're right in principle about the weight of the forks though technically I think you would only subtract the difference between weight of forks minus standard bucket.

I would be most concerned about the lifts of heavy objects up a couple of feet as that is when you can easily exert more than 3000lb force For example when moving a boulder or when using something like a spade attachment to dig which puts more leverage on the forks. However, as noted earlier, I think forks are pretty conservatively rated for legal reasons.

 

[kiotiken]

You're right in principle about the weight of the forks though technically I think you would only subtract the difference between weight of forks minus standard bucket.

I would be most concerned about the lifts of heavy objects up a couple of feet as that is when you can easily exert more than 3000lb force For example when moving a boulder or when using something like a spade attachment to dig which puts more leverage on the forks. However, as noted earlier, I think forks are pretty conservatively rated for legal reasons.

I don't think the bucket is included in the rated lift capacity, that's why it's listed as "Pivot Pins". I just looked it up, the breakout force at the pivot pins on the KL401 is 3727lbs. You'd probably exceed the rating of the forks up to a couple of feet off the ground when the FEL geometry starts to significantly reduce lift capacity. I agree with you, the rating on the forks is probably conservative, but it is there for a reason non the less. Leverage from prying is a whole different ball of wax and may damage the higher capacity forks as well.

 

[IslandTractor]

Bottom line for me on the forks is that a set rated at 4000lbs seems reasonable. I have used such a set for the last four years including with the shovel spade and the forks are still true as is the mount. I would bet the 3000lb forks would be fine but I like the bigger safety margin.

 

[kiotiken]

Bottom line for me on the forks is that a set rated at 4000lbs seems reasonable. I have used such a set for the last four years including with the shovel spade and the forks are still true as is the mount. I would bet the 3000lb forks would be fine but I like the bigger safety margin.

I totally agree, you've got my vote.

 

[Lloyd_E]

SItractor,

I am running almost all Rhino stuff. I have had no issues and have used the gear a lot.
You may want to consider a wider measurement to get beyond the width of your tires.

Lloyd

PS: I seldom use the back blade. Actually only used it once. Box blade can do a lot of things.

 

[southerniltractor]

Folks,

Thanks for all the feedback.

Motor7, I like the idea of a grader versus a back-blade. I'm thinking my box blade will make up not having a back blade. The long gravel drive does need tending and the grader seems to be the ticket.

LLoyd, what model Rhino equipment do you have? They make several versions of the same size impliments. I want heavy enough to last, but I do have a budget to consider. Both kids need braces!

Thanks,
Mike