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100 gr @ 3200 fps should take care of the cougar!
Cougar killing horses
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We should all probably be glad that the various DNR agencies have the Sgt. Schultz approach.
If it doesn't exist, there won't be regulations protecting it.
Really what good would it be for DNR to acknowledge the cat's existence?
SSS
Ken
EddieWalker
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I'm from CA and have a buddy who is a state tracker. I also have a buddy who is married to a game warden. In the SF Bay Area, they have a terrible problem with lions. After the state protected them, and made it illegal to hunt them, the poplulation exploded and human/lion encounters became common.
When there was a deer season, less then a hundred cats a year where killed. After they became protected, the state has to hire trackers to hunt down and kill problem lions. My buddy kills over a dozen a yer himself, and several hundred a year a killed statewide. All at tax payer expense after a problem has been reported and verified to be a lion.
For those who say that they have a huge range and travel long distances, that's only true in some areas. In populated areas where they have killed off all the deer, they live off of pets. People are advised to never leave a pet outside. A lion can easily jump a fence, kill a pet and eat it without you ever knowing it was back there. Friends have seen them sunning themselves from the back windows of their homes, and jobs. Lawrence Livermore Lab has a huge population of them that regularly wonder into town and become problem animals.
They travel along creeks and flood control canals. Those neighborhoods are just about a war zone with issues and confrontations with lions. It was big news when one was found asleep in a shed. The police showed up while it was still in there and reported that it woke up, came outside, jumped an 8 foot fence without touching it and disapeared. Multiple witnesses in the middle of the day made it big news!!!!
An adult lion will eat a deer a week when available. When they can't find deer, they go to what else is available. If food is around them, they don't travel very far and will stay in that area as long as there is something to eat.
They kill for fun. Crow Canyon is an area close to where I'm from that is still rural and the people who live there still raise livestock and have horses. Horse attacks are failrly common, but not always fatal. A strong healthy horse is usually pretty safe if it has enough room to get away and fight off an attack. Sometimes they are hurt more in getting away then from the lion. Either way, my buddy has to come out and see if it was a lion, wild dogs or just a skittish horse. Once he can prove it's a lion, he begins hunting for it. He can go on any private property to do this. He hunts at night with his dogs. I've been racoon hunting with him and it's pretty exciting, but I've never been on a lion hunt.
Once the lion is killed, it's taken to a place that examines it. They want to know if they got the right lion or not. Usually they don't know, and just wait to see if any more attacks happen.
Lions get into a killing spree and will kill all the sheep or goats in a pen. This has made the news a few times, but most of the time it's not reported. He says that some of them are dead, others are wounded and have to be put down. They are rarely eaten. You can guess why they do this, but nobody really knows what goes through their minds.
Here in TX, I'm told that there are lions in every county. I havent seen one or any sign of one yet, but a friend has a plane and he says he's seen them a few times while flying over his land and the surrounding area.
Eddie
When there was a deer season, less then a hundred cats a year where killed. After they became protected, the state has to hire trackers to hunt down and kill problem lions. My buddy kills over a dozen a yer himself, and several hundred a year a killed statewide. All at tax payer expense after a problem has been reported and verified to be a lion.
For those who say that they have a huge range and travel long distances, that's only true in some areas. In populated areas where they have killed off all the deer, they live off of pets. People are advised to never leave a pet outside. A lion can easily jump a fence, kill a pet and eat it without you ever knowing it was back there. Friends have seen them sunning themselves from the back windows of their homes, and jobs. Lawrence Livermore Lab has a huge population of them that regularly wonder into town and become problem animals.
They travel along creeks and flood control canals. Those neighborhoods are just about a war zone with issues and confrontations with lions. It was big news when one was found asleep in a shed. The police showed up while it was still in there and reported that it woke up, came outside, jumped an 8 foot fence without touching it and disapeared. Multiple witnesses in the middle of the day made it big news!!!!
An adult lion will eat a deer a week when available. When they can't find deer, they go to what else is available. If food is around them, they don't travel very far and will stay in that area as long as there is something to eat.
They kill for fun. Crow Canyon is an area close to where I'm from that is still rural and the people who live there still raise livestock and have horses. Horse attacks are failrly common, but not always fatal. A strong healthy horse is usually pretty safe if it has enough room to get away and fight off an attack. Sometimes they are hurt more in getting away then from the lion. Either way, my buddy has to come out and see if it was a lion, wild dogs or just a skittish horse. Once he can prove it's a lion, he begins hunting for it. He can go on any private property to do this. He hunts at night with his dogs. I've been racoon hunting with him and it's pretty exciting, but I've never been on a lion hunt.
Once the lion is killed, it's taken to a place that examines it. They want to know if they got the right lion or not. Usually they don't know, and just wait to see if any more attacks happen.
Lions get into a killing spree and will kill all the sheep or goats in a pen. This has made the news a few times, but most of the time it's not reported. He says that some of them are dead, others are wounded and have to be put down. They are rarely eaten. You can guess why they do this, but nobody really knows what goes through their minds.
Here in TX, I'm told that there are lions in every county. I havent seen one or any sign of one yet, but a friend has a plane and he says he's seen them a few times while flying over his land and the surrounding area.
Eddie
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EddieWalker, your comments are bang on, no pun intended. 
As mention by me early on this thread cougars are a constant threat as are black bears. We have 2 baby monitors out by the chicken coop and barn so we can hear if there is a potential problem. They work very well. Of course for people who have lager acreages this would not work. Seems every few weeks hawks or eagles would like one of our chickens for a snack. While we have lost a couple of chickens we have certainly saved a few by being alerted thru the baby monitors. The chickens have also alerted us when Black bear's are around.
We have a large amount of cougars and black bears on our island (12,407 square miles). "Vancouver Island, Canada has the highest concentration of Mountain Lions (Cougars) in North America and right now their numbers are at an all time high". Good thing is we also have lots of deer.
As mention by me early on this thread cougars are a constant threat as are black bears. We have 2 baby monitors out by the chicken coop and barn so we can hear if there is a potential problem. They work very well. Of course for people who have lager acreages this would not work. Seems every few weeks hawks or eagles would like one of our chickens for a snack. While we have lost a couple of chickens we have certainly saved a few by being alerted thru the baby monitors. The chickens have also alerted us when Black bear's are around.
We have a large amount of cougars and black bears on our island (12,407 square miles). "Vancouver Island, Canada has the highest concentration of Mountain Lions (Cougars) in North America and right now their numbers are at an all time high". Good thing is we also have lots of deer.
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I live an hour SW of St. Louis, MO and after getting up last Saturday we looked out our front door across our pond were two coyotes walking along. We hear strange sounds at night sometimes that sound like bigger cats, but not sure. I know we have bobcats around.
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I just shot a coyote about three hours ago harassing my wife's ducks. They are classified as a predator in Wyoming and shot on site. We have so many of them that it's normal to go coyote hunting. Plus, it saves the protected black
tail prairie dog and there fore the black footed ferret, and maybe the sage grouse which is supposedly hurting in population, but only around the oil field and mining areas of the state. Kinda funny how that works. Cougars will take down elk deer and moose, so a horse isn't that far from the size of a moose, so that doesn't surprise me at all. And if you think about it, a horse is penned up in a confined space, where a deer has miles and miles to run. Which one is going to be the easier prey?
tail prairie dog and there fore the black footed ferret, and maybe the sage grouse which is supposedly hurting in population, but only around the oil field and mining areas of the state. Kinda funny how that works. Cougars will take down elk deer and moose, so a horse isn't that far from the size of a moose, so that doesn't surprise me at all. And if you think about it, a horse is penned up in a confined space, where a deer has miles and miles to run. Which one is going to be the easier prey?
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This was in central Mississippi a few years ago. Around Christmas my dad saw one cross the road a few hundred yards from his house when he came home right after nightfall. This could explain the missing dogs from the neighbors. My dad lives maybe 3 miles from me through the woods. Deer and hog traffic has almost halted at my place last summer through this winter. I've caught only 3 does on my game cam the last 4 months and no hogs. Probably a good thing about losing the hogs.
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I used Google image search on that picture and apparently it and others have been floating around the web for a while. Each place that I found them said they were from a different location. Who knows where they were taken. Maybe from Miss,Tx,Ill,South Dakota or elsewhere.
To the OP: I am not doubting you, I am just pointing out that other folks are posting them claiming they were taken at various places.
Cool Mountain Lion Trail Cam Pics (2nd Attempt)
Cougars caught on a trail cam :: Scattershooting :: Prairie State Outdoors Web log by Jeff Lampe
My wife has two horses, the cougar can have them if he wants to walk this far north. I've been kicked, bit, knocked down, and then she turned the horses loose on me.
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