Snow plow adapted to the FEL

   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #111  
I just saw some of the exchange about complainers, and that is so wrong! Paul, and his projects, are among the most entertaining and interesting things posted on TBN, and his participation enriches the site. To put him down is worse than stupid, it is discouraging to all of us who like to see what he's been up to. I believe that anyone who asks his advice on something is likely to get a reply, and that advice will be top notch.
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #112  
Oh man you were holding back! Stay in class :laughing:

You know I will as I want that diploma...to line the bottom of a bird cage...if I had a bird...besides the ones on each hand.

I just saw some of the exchange about complainers, and that is so wrong! Paul, and his projects, are among the most entertaining and interesting things posted on TBN, and his participation enriches the site. To put him down is worse than stupid, it is discouraging to all of us who like to see what he's been up to. I believe that anyone who asks his advice on something is likely to get a reply, and that advice will be top notch.

I've had run ins with the same guy that Paul has. I don't let him spoil my participation on TBN, and I'm glad Paul doesn't either as we all would be a lot poorer without his contributions.
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL
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#113  
I just saw some of the exchange about complainers, and that is so wrong! Paul, and his projects, are among the most entertaining and interesting things posted on TBN, and his participation enriches the site. To put him down is worse than stupid, it is discouraging to all of us who like to see what he's been up to. I believe that anyone who asks his advice on something is likely to get a reply, and that advice will be top notch.

Thanks varmint. I appreciate that. I'm not going to let one person get to me like that. I enjoy being here. There's always lots to read and learn and if I can contribute in some small way I will. Thanks again. I've always enjoyed your posts and comments as well. :thumbsup:

You know I will as I want that diploma...to line the bottom of a bird cage...if I had a bird...besides the ones on each hand.

Ya I know you well enough to know a diploma isn't the highest on your priority list :laughing:



I've had run ins with the same guy that Paul has. I don't let him spoil my participation on TBN, and I'm glad Paul doesn't either as we all would be a lot poorer without his contributions.


You sure have and your not one to back away from a fight. I've told you before that your one of the guys I look up to here and have always admired your work especially your wiring but then again I'll admit I'm a bit bias because you happen to be a good friend as well. :thumbsup:
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #114  



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Nice work as always, Paul. But you left out the best part. You show the easy first bend in the bracket, but how the heck do you do the second bend to get the finished bracket? Looking at the tooling on your ironworker, the first bend of the bracket would interfere with the upper press block when you try to do the second one. I can understand how it would be easy in a production environment with dedicated tooling, but it's these one-offs that I puzzle with. Got any pics/diagrams on that?

Thanks,
Dave
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #115  
You sure have and your not one to back away from a fight. I've told you before that your one of the guys I look up to here and have always admired your work especially your wiring but then again I'll admit I'm a bit bias because you happen to be a good friend as well. :thumbsup:

Thanks!
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL
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Nice work as always, Paul. But you left out the best part. You show the easy first bend in the bracket, but how the heck do you do the second bend to get the finished bracket? Looking at the tooling on your ironworker, the first bend of the bracket would interfere with the upper press block when you try to do the second one. I can understand how it would be easy in a production environment with dedicated tooling, but it's these one-offs that I puzzle with. Got any pics/diagrams on that?

Thanks,
Dave

:laughing: Ah man you got a great understanding of this. The second bend is the tricky part. Close proximity bends are tough but in this case I made the second bend with the ironworker as well. It distorted the center of the bracket a bit but I then put the bracket in the hydrilic press and in a second I had it straight as a whip with no restoration. There's actually a way to do it where you use the press plates as a die. I'll have to remember to include this step the next time I do this sort of thing.
If this was a production job I would have built a dedicated gig/brake for the project. Come to think of it I shoud build one anyway :confused: :D.

Actually the hard part to building a bracket like these is being able to pre punch the holes then make the bends and have the holes line up perfectly after the bends are complete. Try it, it's not easy ;)

I don't take photos of every step. I do leave some parts out so that sharp minds such as yours will start thinking and ask questions and this was a great question :thumbsup:




Your welcome :thumbsup:
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #117  
Paul, I'm delighted you sent me the link to the post....brilliant. Like the others who follow your work, I am in awe of your improvements. Have you tested the difference the shock has made (I bet it's a great improvement)?

For the others who wish that they lived close to Paul.....I'm sure you'll be jealous when I tell you that I do. I just purchased a Kubota L4240 which will be delivered next week. I've been speaking with our man Paul (and his very understanding wife Cathy) and I'll be dropping my unit off at Paul's in a few weeks
to have it pimped "just like Pauls" LOL

Thanks once again Paul pat
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #118  
When I first started out as a mechanic I befriended the meanest, grumpiest old sob in the shop. Somehow he took a liking to my attention to detail and asking for help if I did not understand or was not completely sure of a project. Well anyway as it turned out he was a master machinist, tool and die maker. His position in the shop was no way commensurate with his training or talent he had just found a place rebuilding sub assemblies that worked for him. As the years went by he shared a lot of knowledge with me that he would not share with others in the shop. He would often stray over to my job and offer suggestions etc. When I had a machinist question he was always willing to offer not only a solution but the why and how and hands on help. I had become his apprentice. One day out of the blue he comes to me and says ,give me a hundred bucks, puzzled I told him I would see him on payday. Well when payday came he escorted me out the parking lot to his car, opened the trunk and gave me several thousand dollars of machinists? tools. All old school, no digital, but well worth the money. The tools included handmade micrometers, height gauges, depth gauges, vices, angle blocks, sine bars you name it, enough to start a small shop. His reasoning was that his son in law would only use the stuff as hammers or pry bars. For years after I would occasionally find another tool on my box with his initials engraved on them, he would just find another thing he did not want or need and pass it on. He is gone now but I strive to pass on what I can.

When my son was younger in his early teens and we would be working on a project I would often try to explain the whole process as we went along, much like my friend had. Well as with all kids his age he was in a hurry to see the finished product and not too interested in just how to get it done. I love his most famous quote when he asked how do something, dad I don't need the twelve page explanation. Since he has gotten older, he is in his twenties now; I have gotten a whole lot smarter! Now we are at least up to the six page answer.

Well what's my point? I it is people like my old friend, 4shorts and others on TBN that are willing to share their collective knowledge, talents and ideas that further our knowledge and understanding. Trying to stifle these posts in any way hurts us all. 4shorts keep it coming! I for one respect the talent shared for no other reason but to help and inform others. None of us are too old to learn. Thanks for your generosity.
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #119  
Yeah Paul I didn't mention lining up the holes either. I knew that was even worse to do... But i couldn't even see that it would fit in the press for the second bend. Can't always tell from the photos... But i get it - so it deformed a little? Just press it back to shape. I would probably make the holes after the bends so they lined up, but then it would probably not be possible to punch them, and you'd have to drill. That's one of those experience thingies you've got going on....

Thanks.
 
   / Snow plow adapted to the FEL #120  
Tim, it's the internet. There's always some whiny so-and-so around. Don't let it get to you...

Wonderful story you've git there!
 

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