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Like Car Doc, I was hoping the question could be answered about where the components of the gearbox are made? In machine shops in the USA or in machine shops in China/Mexico? Ken Sweet
King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers
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Interesting reading, and to think I would not buy any of the tillers I saw from Poland, as i was concerned about the gears boxes... I need to agree on chinese steel.. It is crapshoot as to how hard it is, or quality.. Matter of fact with about any steel, I saw several sheets of Russian labeled flat steel on the yard?
sweettractors
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Thanks for clearing that up for us all. We sell The Tarter Brand and the Phoenix Brand of Roto Tillers. I think we are in the same boat with you on "world sourcing" parts with the Tarter Brand, although, I don't know for sure? Tarter is saying Made in USA Like King Kutter says. If I sell a man a tiller and want to be sure it has a non China gearbox, I sell them a Phoenix brand made in Italy. Ken Sweet
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Sweet, they are proud of the Italian products around here too. I could not believe some of their used prices tillers and mowers. They seem to hold up very well..
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We have been selling First Choice, Phoenix and Kioti (all Sicma) for years with great customer feedback. They do cost more, however, some of our customers want the best and not the least expensive. Ken Sweet
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I agree, One thing i cannot stand is SOFT bearings...I have had enough of that to last a long time.. I will pay for for a quality bearing, so I do not have to do it twice..Soft gears and SHAFTS run a close second to major pains?? With foreigh products it was bad now it seems some US suppliers are following suit and cover it with short or non-existant warranties??And replacement chinese products.
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If you have a customer that wants one of the brands rotary cutters that you carry, and does not want one with a China gearbox, what brand do you sell? How about one of those you have listed as Made In The USA?
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sweettractors
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We would go with the Phoenix. From what I understand, Technically, KK, Tarter, Hawkline and County Line can say made in the USA, if a set percentage is made in the USA or assembled in the USA. Sorta like the tractor mfgrs. Ken Sweet
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I did not know that Phoenix (Sicma) had rotary cutters. As a "Retired Tool And Die Man" maybe you can help me out: "Built" = :confused3: , "Made" = :confused3:
Next time I go to King Kutter and pick up some more tillers to help keep my $99.00 Shipping going to residence in Ky, VA, GA, LA, AR, NC, and SC, I should stop by Tremount MS to watch the "Building" of the gearboxes for your BB line of rotary cutters.
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sweettractors
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We stock Big Bee rotary cutters from Red Bay, Al. and Hawkline/International by Behlen Country from Huntington, Tn and Tarter from Dunnville, Ky. Tremont, Ms that you mention is the home of what brand???. Whoever is paying $99 residential shipping is getting a raw deal. Our residential accessorial with added call before delivery only cost 1/2 that. Ken Sweet
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Tremount MS is where the factory is for the BB cutters. You are right, DHE is in Red Bay, but they have a factory in Tremount.
The $99.00 is the full costs of shipping in those states. That is not an additional charge.
The $99.00 is the full costs of shipping in those states. That is not an additional charge.
sweettractors
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Here is a link to the Phoenix Company (Unifarm Machinery) line of Rotary Cutters. We are taking a hard look at these quality machines for future stock. Rotary Cutters Ken Sweet
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Now, Bruce . . . don't forget TN! :confused3:
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Seems to be several dealers here with discussions over high shipping prices.
I am ready to buy what is the best price on a:
KK TG60 shipped to CT. ??????
you can email me at messipj@yahoo.com or PM me
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I am ready to buy what is the best price on a:
KK TG60 shipped to CT. ??????
you can email me at messipj@yahoo.com or PM me
Thanks
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At the risk of sounding like a moron............your statement makes no sense and can be labeled as false advertising.
King Kutter Rep was on here at one time.........advertising his product. While I'm not against King Kutter, I am against anyone trying to sell their product on here without signing up as an advertiser.
Rules is rules, they are there for a reason.
If ya want to push your product, pay the advertising fee as Jake does, or sell at TSC.
Nuff said
P.S. And it goes for any other advertisers here on TBN. Be honest about where your products are made(whole or in part)............you'll only lose customers if you aren't honest.
Rule of thumb..........good news travels fast..............bad news travels much faster.
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Looks can be deceiving, be sure to ask questions and get supporing documentation..............according to the posts I've seen on here!!!!!!!I'm gonna quote myself.........
If I find any one of you advertisers...............misrepresenting your product.....
I will post my info as soon as I can respond to the post.
I trust you advertisers to give me factual information, so I can help others here on TBN...........if you can't be honest...........I will see to it that you get no business from TBN!!!!!
I DON"T CARE WHO YA ARE......................
I will not tolerate being lied to!
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Good idea...........cause the last big roll I was on was against my father............and I didn't talk to him for 7 years...........and you ain't a relative!
Hi Doug,
It depend on how much ground is being tilled. I worked on a vegetable farm that had a brand new KK tiller and by the end of the year it was all beat up. It seemed like it had thin metal, it was all dented up and bubbled out from hitting rocks. Now, to be fair it was about 13 tilled acres that it was used on, and there were rocks, despite my efforts to remove them before I tilled. I worked on another vegetable farm that was three times the size, and same ammount of rocks. They had two tillers, one was an old Howard tiller, and the other was a new Maschio. I worked there for three years and those tillers were worked hard. They seemed to have heavier metal, no dents or dings through out the years. Now, I didn't price it out but I wouldn't be surprised if those tillers cost a pretty penny. If that is the case, and if he is only tilling a garden patch, I think that the tiller that your buddy got will be a fine tiller. But if he is using it for large acreage it may not last very long.
It depend on how much ground is being tilled. I worked on a vegetable farm that had a brand new KK tiller and by the end of the year it was all beat up. It seemed like it had thin metal, it was all dented up and bubbled out from hitting rocks. Now, to be fair it was about 13 tilled acres that it was used on, and there were rocks, despite my efforts to remove them before I tilled. I worked on another vegetable farm that was three times the size, and same ammount of rocks. They had two tillers, one was an old Howard tiller, and the other was a new Maschio. I worked there for three years and those tillers were worked hard. They seemed to have heavier metal, no dents or dings through out the years. Now, I didn't price it out but I wouldn't be surprised if those tillers cost a pretty penny. If that is the case, and if he is only tilling a garden patch, I think that the tiller that your buddy got will be a fine tiller. But if he is using it for large acreage it may not last very long.
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