King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers

   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #41  
Like Car Doc, I was hoping the question could be answered about where the components of the gearbox are made? In machine shops in the USA or in machine shops in China/Mexico? Ken Sweet
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #42  
Interesting reading, and to think I would not buy any of the tillers I saw from Poland, as i was concerned about the gears boxes... I need to agree on chinese steel.. It is crapshoot as to how hard it is, or quality.. Matter of fact with about any steel, I saw several sheets of Russian labeled flat steel on the yard?
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #43  
We do use world sourcing for component parts (just as GM, Ford, and other American companies) in an effort to provide a quality product that is manufactured in the US and available to the consumer at an affordable price.

As for the question about "outlet stores", we retail our products through distributors across the US. Please checkout our new website (which is new and improved but still under construction) at King Kutter Inc. - Quality Rotary Mowers and Farm Equipment to locate a dealer in your area.

Thanks for clearing that up for us all. We sell The Tarter Brand and the Phoenix Brand of Roto Tillers. I think we are in the same boat with you on "world sourcing" parts with the Tarter Brand, although, I don't know for sure? Tarter is saying Made in USA Like King Kutter says. If I sell a man a tiller and want to be sure it has a non China gearbox, I sell them a Phoenix brand made in Italy. Ken Sweet
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #44  
Sweet, they are proud of the Italian products around here too. I could not believe some of their used prices tillers and mowers. They seem to hold up very well..
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #45  
Sweet, they are proud of the Italian products around here too. I could not believe some of their used prices tillers and mowers. They seem to hold up very well..

We have been selling First Choice, Phoenix and Kioti (all Sicma) for years with great customer feedback. They do cost more, however, some of our customers want the best and not the least expensive. Ken Sweet
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #46  
We have been selling First Choice, Phoenix and Kioti (all Sicma) for years with great customer feedback. They do cost more, however, some of our customers want the best and not the least expensive. Ken Sweet

I agree, One thing i cannot stand is SOFT bearings...I have had enough of that to last a long time.. I will pay for for a quality bearing, so I do not have to do it twice..Soft gears and SHAFTS run a close second to major pains?? With foreigh products it was bad now it seems some US suppliers are following suit and cover it with short or non-existant warranties??And replacement chinese products.
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #47  
Thanks for clearing that up for us all. We sell The Tarter Brand and the Phoenix Brand of Roto Tillers. I think we are in the same boat with you on "world sourcing" parts with the Tarter Brand, although, I don't know for sure? Tarter is saying Made in USA Like King Kutter says. If I sell a man a tiller and want to be sure it has a non China gearbox, I sell them a Phoenix brand made in Italy. Ken Sweet

If you have a customer that wants one of the brands rotary cutters that you carry, and does not want one with a China gearbox, what brand do you sell? How about one of those you have listed as Made In The USA?
 
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   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #48  
If you have a customer that wants one of the brands rotary cutters that you carry, and does not want one with a China gearbox, what brand do you sell? How about one of those you have listed as Made In The USA?

We would go with the Phoenix. From what I understand, Technically, KK, Tarter, Hawkline and County Line can say made in the USA, if a set percentage is made in the USA or assembled in the USA. Sorta like the tractor mfgrs. Ken Sweet
 
   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #49  
We would go with the Phoenix. From what I understand, Technically, KK, Tarter, Hawkline and County Line can say made in the USA, if a set percentage is made in the USA or assembled in the USA. Sorta like the tractor mfgrs. Ken Sweet

I did not know that Phoenix (Sicma) had rotary cutters. As a "Retired Tool And Die Man" maybe you can help me out: "Built" = :confused3: , "Made" = :confused3:

Next time I go to King Kutter and pick up some more tillers to help keep my $99.00 Shipping going to residence in Ky, VA, GA, LA, AR, NC, and SC, I should stop by Tremount MS to watch the "Building" of the gearboxes for your BB line of rotary cutters.
 
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   / King Kutter vs Chinese Tillers #50  
We stock Big Bee rotary cutters from Red Bay, Al. and Hawkline/International by Behlen Country from Huntington, Tn and Tarter from Dunnville, Ky. Tremont, Ms that you mention is the home of what brand???. Whoever is paying $99 residential shipping is getting a raw deal. Our residential accessorial with added call before delivery only cost 1/2 that. Ken Sweet
 
 

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