Now I have done it! What a mess!

[Martian]

God no martian, I wish it was so.

I was thinking WTH! Was going to go sell my 110 and have a Kioti dealer order me 2 of them DK40's with backhoes for that price! I was doing the math at 8 grand for a backhoe and 4 grand for a loader, you got that thing for $9k... No BH makes a lot more sense:thumbsup:

 

[murphy1244]

I was thinking WTH! Was going to go sell my 110 and have a Kioti dealer order me 2 of them DK40's with backhoes for that price! I was doing the math at 8 grand for a backhoe and 4 grand for a loader, you got that thing for $9k... No BH makes a lot more sense:thumbsup:

Not to take over this thread but how is the 110, Sure looked good but heard of remote problems??

 

[IslandTractor]

Well we are at the "dealing" stage,, He has made his offer, and I told him it was not good enough.. and he said he would get back to me Monday, (they close at 2:00Pm )to see if we can come closer together.. I may or may not be a member of the pack soon I just don't know..I am torn with keeping what I have and getting a much nicer tractor with lots more capability.. we shall see.

James K0UA

I hope you beat him into submission. You'll love the DK40se. I'm a little biased having owned one since they came out in 2007 (thank you Rick Wallace for talking me into it!). I still believe it is the absolute best bang for the buck out there when considering a tractor for six/seven foot implements and a monster loader. Mine has a Woods BH90x which is a perfect match too.

After four+ years I can only say that it is one of the best purchases I've ever made. I have no need for more horsepower but I'm very glad I don't have less. The loader is a dream and a monster at the same time. It has saved my hours and hours of work by just plain muscling stuff in a way my otherwise extremely competent CK20 with a 1070lb lift capacity loader just couldn't do.

The BH combo is excellent too. I know not everyone wants or can justify a BH but the Woods/Kioti match up is about perfect.

I sometimes dream about a cab but only on hot dusty days when mowing (and sneezing). I do too much brush work in the woods to think seriously about a cab but once the clearing is done it might be nice to have. Don't think I'll be in a position to upgrade but now is the time to be thinking about those things before prices shoot up. (I'd probably go for the 45 with a cab just to have extra power for the A/C, if I were getting another non cab it would be the DK40se again. Never felt I haven't had enough HP)

 

[CJONE]

Koua, I don't know if this was answered but I have 15 hours on my new DK50 and the control placements are about perfect no issues with anything except for lever travel distance and that is almost no issue at all. I am used to pilot controls on the bigger equipment. I am very happy with everything, tractor has been used for moving dirt and snow almost for the full time. Just be aware if you are in hilly terrain and use the FEL alot HP is your friend. I can stall mine in low range using the loader hard. with that being said this tractor will take a fully loaded bucket out of a wet clay pit and walk out of it in midrange. I have ran a few 4X4 backhoes that would not do that. CJ Oh by the way it has been in the 80's here and the A/C works great!!

 

[ddb123]

We're all waiting and wondering what will happen!

 

[k0ua]

We're all waiting and wondering what will happen!

Me too. He is supposed to call with his final offer, but mentioned having to look around for tire loading guys, I said I would not accept calcium cloride. only rimguard, RV anti freeze or methanol mix in that order.. They did not seem terribly eager to sell real quick.. I felt like the first offer was not good enough..we shall see.

James K0UA

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I don't think that anyone has brought this up, but you know what goes along with a bigger tractor, BIGGER implements. :mur: One thing leads to another and it will be tough to "get by" with the smaller, lighter duty stuff that you already have.

 

[murphy1244]

The weather is very nice and the tractors are selling so I don't know if a great deal can be made.My dealer had lots of machines in Febuary, now not very much. Good luck

 

[IslandTractor]

I don't think that anyone has brought this up, but you know what goes along with a bigger tractor, BIGGER implements. :mur: One thing leads to another and it will be tough to "get by" with the smaller, lighter duty stuff that you already have.

True but used implements are readily available in six foot sizes. I also picked up a five foot Woods brushbull medium duty rotary for cheap money that I use for pure brush removal. Point is that while six or seven foot implements are nice, one can get along just fine with a mishmash of sizes and upgrade as opportunity and budget allows.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

True but used implements are readily available in six foot sizes. I also picked up a five foot Woods brushbull medium duty rotary for cheap money that I use for pure brush removal. Point is that while six or seven foot implements are nice, one can get along just fine with a mishmash of sizes and upgrade as opportunity and budget allows.

This is absolutly true, my point was that the DK40 is much more of a machine and that the implements that he has been using are not really up to snuff for the Kioti and that somewhere down the line different size-duty implements should be obtained.

You are right though, a person can "get by" with implements intended for waaaaaaay less of a machine than they are being used on, you just need to grow a pair of eyes in the back of your head, and you can't use the tractor up to it's potential. Then I would start 2nd guessing about why even bother getting a bigger machine at all.

But then again this is just me and I know that A LOT of guys get by with what they have.

 

[MotorSeven]

Koua...this won't help you much, but I traded up from a Ck30 to the DK40SE Hydro. My main reason was lift capacity and I have to say it was a good trade for me. I use the snot out of my Dk and the FEL is almost always in use. Besides building a log home, I have a sawmill, and the DK loads all the logs, then I off bear onto the forks so can take the finished lumber where it needs to go. I'm at 700 hrs and just haying this summer will add another couple hundred cutting, raking and stacking 300 4x4 bales.

If you are at his point, I think the up-grade is the only way your ever gonna get some sleep

 

[ddb123]

This is absolutly true, my point was that the DK40 is much more of a machine and that the implements that he has been using are not really up to snuff for the Kioti and that somewhere down the line different size-duty implements should be obtained.

You are right though, a person can "get by" with implements intended for waaaaaaay less of a machine than they are being used on, you just need to grow a pair of eyes in the back of your head, and you can't use the tractor up to it's potential. Then I would start 2nd guessing about why even bother getting a bigger machine at all.

But then again this is just me and I know that A LOT of guys get by with what they have.

I think k0ua is a special case because I believe he mostly does loader work.

 

[OBWON]

I stopped by my Massey dealer to pick up a part last week and looked at a some new tractors. I'd be afraid to use something that nice!!! And $24,000 for a new 1532 with just a FEL when I paid $14,500 for a 2006 1533 with a FEL with 425 hours that included an 18' Hooper dual axle trailer, a 6' box scrape, 6' brush hog, 6' finishing mower, and an auger with two bits??? I'll keep the extra $10,00 cash and the implements...

 

[k0ua]

I think k0ua is a special case because I believe he mostly does loader work.

I am a case allright:laughing::laughing:.. I got the dealers last offer this evening, I am still trying to decide what to do.. I am not thrilled by the offer, but I am still deciding. I haven't actually drove the tractor, and would probably have to wait until saturday.. Yes I mostly do loader work, and a little mowing in summer and fall. The loader capacity is calling to me,, the payment is not thrilling me a lot, and the wife is not thrilled at all..

James K0UA

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I am a case allright:laughing::laughing:.. I got the dealers last offer this evening, I am still trying to decide what to do.. I am not thrilled by the offer, but I am still deciding. I haven't actually drove the tractor, and would probably have to wait until saturday.. Yes I mostly do loader work, and a little mowing in summer and fall. The loader capacity is calling to me,, the payment is not thrilling me a lot, and the wife is not thrilled at all..

James K0UA

Your 1800lb capacity loader forks might not be the best thing to have on a loader with 2600lb lift capacity. Not trying to say anything negative, just that it is what it is and when you increase capacities on one thing, you should consider increasing everything else that goes along with that initial up grade.

 

[IslandTractor]

The loader capacity is calling to me,, the payment is not thrilling me a lot, and the wife is not thrilled at all..

James K0UA

Has any wife, ever, been thrilled when her tractor geek hubby proposes an upgrade? Just askin'.

If this is the kind of work you do then this is the tractor and grapple you want/need:

 

[k0ua]

Your 1800lb capacity loader forks might not be the best thing to have on a loader with 2600lb lift capacity. Not trying to say anything negative, just that it is what it is and when you increase capacities on one thing, you should consider increasing everything else that goes along with that initial up grade.

Yeah I thought of that,, that DK40, might just wad em up like a pretzel if I get carried away.. I have tested them with the L3400HST and no problem it goes into relief before the forks look stressed. I have picked up some big rocks with them, but you know how you always want to pick up a bigger one?

James K0UA

 

[Hollow]

About the only thing I did not like about that tractor was the fact it did not follow me home.

James K0UA

:laughing::laughing::laughing: That happens to me a lot! With many different makes and models!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[IslandTractor]

Yeah I thought of that,, that DK40, might just wad em up like a pretzel if I get carried away.. I have tested them with the L3400HST and no problem it goes into relief before the forks look stressed. I have picked up some big rocks with them, but you know how you always want to pick up a bigger one?

James K0UA

Forks are for pallets and you know or can easily calculate pretty much how much those weigh. Grapples are for other stuff and even a light duty grapple can handle anything a 2700lb lift loader can dish out.

 

[ddb123]

I am a case allright:laughing::laughing:.. I got the dealers last offer this evening, I am still trying to decide what to do.. I am not thrilled by the offer, but I am still deciding. I haven't actually drove the tractor, and would probably have to wait until saturday.. Yes I mostly do loader work, and a little mowing in summer and fall. The loader capacity is calling to me,, the payment is not thrilling me a lot, and the wife is not thrilled at all..

James K0UA

You might go test drive it anyway. If he sees that you're serious, he might give a little more on his price. Or you might decide you don't like it after all. Even if you like it but pass on the price, you always seem fond of your L3400 when you talk about, so there's that much still!