loggers are coming to clear the land behind us

[scoutcub]

Bigballer -

Agreed, how about an update?
I just read thru the entire thread with great curiousity and a few raised eyebrows. I 'spose I could see the points of "it's their property, they can do with it what they want how could you possibly think about interfering" (to put it nicely) I would think it's due to the reason that most TBN'ers here are landowners, and have either had this situation, or read about it on some related threads regarding trespassing/property incursions, etc.
I'm SURE some of the imflammatory responses were typed immediately after reading certain portions of your thread.....just as you typed the opening thread right after you found out about the logging.
I'm in a similar situation, X2. Where I currently live, we bought 62 acres with the intent on building a retirement house on it down the road. We bought it fully well knowing a coal company was intending to do some deep shaft mining on the adjoining property, including a lease on the NW portion of my property. I recently noticed numerous flagging on the entire W side of the property, seems that the coal company wants to build the coal road right along the property lines, and was planning to remove numerous trees on my property to accomplish this. This wasn't part of the original plan, but still within their lease.
So, I contacted the coal rep, and asked to meet him on the property for a walk-thru. We discussed at length their plans and my plans, and came up with an agreeable solution. So, I'll monitor their progress closely to insure compliance, and see what impact the operation has on my future housebuilding plans....

I also own 86 acres in Port Angeles, assuming close to you? It's zoned commercial forest, (no house on property) and I've seen clearcutting across the valley in the past. Agreed, it looks bad at first, but as other have said it comes back quickly with the required replanting and climate. I bought it right after it was clearcut, yes it is messy. I'm got several issues with the property and debating on what to do about them, but that's another topic. (or3:laughing
Bottom line, I liked the story of bringing out the coffee and donuts to the operator. Remain engaged with the manager of the project, review the runoff plan with him, inquire about a possible buffer, inquire about purchasing some planting trees from the logging company for your property, and be vigilant about the property line once the logging has commenced.
You're not going to be able to stop it, so just do all you can to make the best of the situation!

 

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weeeeellllllll.........update??????

 

[greasemonkeyok]

Good post scoutcub.

Now, what were you doing up at 2:00 am?:laughing:

We have been in the same circumstance. Institution bought land next to us and cleared all the trees with the idea of building on it. Then their funding failed. So now we have to look at ugly bare land. But, we could have purchased it ourselves, just didn't want to spend that much money.

 

[dmccarty]

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We have been in the same circumstance. Institution bought land next to us and cleared all the trees with the idea of building on it. Then their funding failed. So now we have to look at ugly bare land. But, we could have purchased it ourselves, just didn't want to spend that much money.

Have you checked to see if they are willing to sell now that the trees are gone? The price might be much better now.

Later,
Dan

 

[Dr_Zinj]

Trust me, I have similar concerns. I saw it when I was growing up and my father didn't purchase the property next to us. Someone else did and nothing but trouble ensued for years until my Dad packed up and moved.

It's one reason why I purchased 20 acres of property in the woods. And there are still 5 acres adjacent that I better pick up or see built on soon.

You can complain all you want, but I'm a firm believer in owner's rights. I loath government EPA and Fish & Game regulations, hate neighborhood covenants, and I'm not really keen on zoning. Your rights stop at my property line. Conversely, if you're dropping trees on my head, undercutting the land so mine falls into a hole, letting yours erode into mine, or polluting the air coming onto my land, I have a legitimate gripe.

You have valid concerns about erosion. Sic the government on them to ensure they comply with ALL regulations along that boundary line. Offer to purchase the timber rights for a 50 foot depth along the boundary, or purchase the land outright. Or you can get really nasty and try to file for adverse possession of that land based on your uncontested use and improvements (if any) that you've been doing for the past few (usually around 7) years.

 

[Dr_Zinj]

...I just wonder what they would be saying if someone was doing something next to them that they didn't like. It is real easy to "talk" but when it comes to them it is different. people on TBN do not see anything wrong about the shale gas drilling or the pipe line through Nebraska. But that is because it is not in their back yard.

Like I said previously, we can complain all we want (and we do) but if we don't own the property, then lump it.

Shale gas drilling doesn't bother me as long as its effects don't cross my property line. If you're causing quakes, subsidence, gas leaks, or ground water contamination on my property; then I have an ethical, legal, and moral gripe.

Ditto that pipeline in Nebraska. As I understand the situation, the Ogallala acquifer's greatest threat isn't the Keystone pipeline, it's the people abusing the acquifer now. (Overdrawing, and contamination.)

 

[ruffdog]

You must not have read up on all the problems and spills they had with the first keystone pipeline then? So soon people forget......

 

[lockhaven]

Like I said previously, we can complain all we want (and we do) but if we don't own the property, then lump it.

Shale gas drilling doesn't bother me as long as its effects don't cross my property line. If you're causing quakes, subsidence, gas leaks, or ground water contamination on my property; then I have an ethical, legal, and moral gripe.

Ditto that pipeline in Nebraska. As I understand the situation, the Ogallala acquifer's greatest threat isn't the Keystone pipeline, it's the people abusing the acquifer now. (Overdrawing, and contamination.)

wont do you a bit of good if you own the property or not, the state gave the gas companies the right to condemn your property and take it for a pipe line

 

[greasemonkeyok]

The problem now Dmccarty, is that the individuals that authorized the purchase don't want to admit they paid way too much, so they have to pretend it is really valuable. Probably will have to wait until there is a change in management with no ego invested in the deal.

 

[meadowlarkponds]

When life gives you lemons, make lemonaide.

Land behind mine was clear cut and left in shambles(about 100 acres). It looked terrible.

I bought it for a cheap price because of the mess it was in. Purchased a small Case dozer and a couple of years later the land was beautiful pasture land, big pond, and some portion re-planted in pine timber. The land easily doubled in value in those two years and now is easily worth 4 times what I paid...and the funny thing is I had so much fun running the dozer, cleaning up the lands, and putting in a pond I probably would have paid just to do it.