Kubota L3200 HST or John Deere 3032E
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k0ua
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Have you checked out the Kioti CK30 or CK35? Lots more features than either. If I was choosing between the orange and the green I would choose the orange. YMMV.
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^ dude, a grand L is going to add, what, at least $5k to the prices he quoted above?
I checked out both tractors you are comparing before I found something used that better fit my budget. The Kubota L series just seemed so much more solid than the little (narrow!) JD 3032.
I think Kioti stopped selling the DK35 or I might advise you to look into that model, too. But the CK series is still a great tractor.
Should also add - the Bobcat CUTs are basically the same as the Kioti CK line, and I have heard of some amazing deals on those. If you have a dealer nearby, check one out.
I checked out both tractors you are comparing before I found something used that better fit my budget. The Kubota L series just seemed so much more solid than the little (narrow!) JD 3032.
I think Kioti stopped selling the DK35 or I might advise you to look into that model, too. But the CK series is still a great tractor.
Should also add - the Bobcat CUTs are basically the same as the Kioti CK line, and I have heard of some amazing deals on those. If you have a dealer nearby, check one out.
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Before you buy check out the Yanmar EX3200. I bought one two weeks ago and it is a very well built tractor and cost a heck of a lot less than the Kubota and JD I was looking at of the same horsepower. Plus, it comes with a 5 year drive train warranty which can be handy if need be.
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The L3200 will be More Tractor than the 3032E... I'd go orange!
Went through the same thing a few months ago and ended up with the L3200HST. A few key points that swayed our decision:
1. Kubota 3spd HST vs 2spd on the Deere
2. The Kubota loader easily detaches where as I think on the Deere you have to buy another kit or something.
3. The Kubota seemed to be better built. That is what Kubota does - they design/build tractors where as the Deere is farmed out to a third party.
Just what I saw and based my decision on.
1. Kubota 3spd HST vs 2spd on the Deere
2. The Kubota loader easily detaches where as I think on the Deere you have to buy another kit or something.
3. The Kubota seemed to be better built. That is what Kubota does - they design/build tractors where as the Deere is farmed out to a third party.
Just what I saw and based my decision on.
ChiefLoneWolf
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I am looking into getting my first tractor too and for some odd reason always thought it has to be green (my brother was a farmer and they had only greens, I still tease him about this today).
I checked JDs through flyers and online only and they don't any longer appeal to me too much.
Check these vids on youtube where they compare
1) the JD 3038E with the Kubota L3200/3800
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTidbgJOU-I]New Kubota Standard L-Series (L3200/L3800) - YouTube[/ame]
2) the JD 3038E with the Kubota B3300su
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SvlIPjFm-E]Kubota B3300SU vs John Deere 3032E - YouTube[/ame]
If size matters, you might even want to look at the B3200 or B3300su.
Me too, I'd go for orange.
ChiefLoneWolf
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... and yes, I have read in several posts from James his references to the Kioti CK Series (thank you). I have done my 'Due Diligence' and went to look at the CK35 specifically (which compares to the L3200). It is a fine machine no doubt and has a few features that the L3200 lacks.
Personally I just find the L3200 more appealing - besides the fact that I get a bit a sweater deal for the L3200 (I'm talking Canada).
So at the moment I lean towards a Kubota L-Series tractor; just not sure yet if it's worth to go to the L3800 for only 1500 Canuck bucks more.
PS: the Kioti DKSEs and Kubota Grand-Ls are really good tractors too. It is just the size that keeps me from going this route.
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I would think most people would tell you, yes, it is! But what are your plans for the tractor? The extra gross and PTO horsepower of the 3800 means an extra foot of implement width capability (for many things, not all). Basically it allows for larger implements that better match the frame size of the tractor.
Fair enough, but again, what are you plans? The DK tractors are still very maneuverable, from what I could tell. And it's the size (weight) that really makes them such powerful machines.
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Yes. I would step up to the L3800! Not much more $ in the long run.
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Not wanting to misuse this thread, let me quickly answer your question.
From what I understand what the dealer told me the L3200 and the L3800 have the same engine, just different bores and strokes, hence the added HPs. The rest of the tractor is exactly the same with the L38 just slightly heavier.
I don't even think I'm going to have a use for the PTO. I want to use the tractor mainly for digging (BH) and moving earth (FEL), removing rocks & boulders (BH), carry or shove them out of the way (FEL), grading my and neighboring driveways and snow plowing. Just my gut feeling tells me, that with the additional HPs I might be able to push heavier loads. Yes, I am aware that lifting loads has to do with the capability of the FEL. And that's the same on both machines.
Yes, I understand this too. I am just afraid that with one of these units I have my driveway blocked in
. I am new to tractors and just the fact that I'm eye-level with the top of the back wheel is too overwhelming. It was already an awesome feeling to climb onto and drive the L3200 in the dealer's lot. Nevertheless, I don't wanna go with the B3200, which is smaller and much lighter, would give me less stability and probably traction and costs, save a few bucks, the same as the L3200.Sassi
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I bought a kubota L3240 in March of this year. To date it has done every job that I asked it to do. The extra stuff on it really made the difference for me. When I went searching I mainly had two requirements: (1) the FEL had to lift about 1600 pounds, (2) the three point hitch had to be able to easily lift a 1000 to 1200 pound roll of hay. Do you have any specific requirements for the tractor you want, or is it all about price?
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Well hey Dude he didn't say he was looking for the cheapest tractor now did he?
Just trying to get him to look at all options and the Grand L has them. Don't have to buy but never know until you look.DevilDog
k0ua
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Not wanting to misuse this thread, let me quickly answer your question.
From what I understand what the dealer told me the L3200 and the L3800 have the same engine, just different bores and strokes, hence the added HPs. The rest of the tractor is exactly the same with the L38 just slightly heavier.
I don't even think I'm going to have a use for the PTO. I want to use the tractor mainly for digging (BH) and moving earth (FEL), removing rocks & boulders (BH), carry or shove them out of the way (FEL), grading my and neighboring driveways and snow plowing. Just my gut feeling tells me, that with the additional HPs I might be able to push heavier loads. Yes, I am aware that lifting loads has to do with the capability of the FEL. And that's the same on both machines.
Yes, I understand this too. I am just afraid that with one of these units I have my driveway blocked in
Well the L3200 or L3800 will probably do what you want to do. They will do a lot, But neither will do what my DK35se HST will do, or one of the Heavier grand L Kubota's with more weight. and it wont do what a DK40 will do as far as FEL lift ability. Tractors have a way of shrinking fast. Every hour you are on it operating pushing, shoving, lifting, grading, they just get smaller and smaller
. What is going on is that your experience and confidence grow as you become more skilled, and you want to do more. BUT you have to draw the line somewhere. You cannot do some things either because the bigger tractor will not fit or is not agile enough to do some jobs well, just too big. What you really need is about 3 tractors, small, medium and large. If you are anything like me, you probably cannot afford 3 tractors. and will have to make do with one that is "about right" Good luck in your decision on finding that close fit.James K0UA
ChiefLoneWolf
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Well the L3200 or L3800 will probably do what you want to do. They will do a lot, But neither will do what my DK35se HST will do, or one of the Heavier grand L Kubota's with more weight. and it wont do what a DK40 will do as far as FEL lift ability. Tractors have a way of shrinking fast. Every hour you are on it operating pushing, shoving, lifting, grading, they just get smaller and smaller
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Thanks for your reply, James.
Oh, I can follow your reasoning about the fast shrinking. But as you rightly said, there is a line to draw somewhere. And I'm sure over time I might want to add one thing or the other to the tractor too. So, yes, money is an issue - as much as I like (and also was ogling) the DK35/40 or L3240.
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I realize this is an older thread, but yes, I went through the same comparison issues a month ago (June 2012) and found several things not mentioned in abeal's post, that swayed me to the orange. I posted these items in another thread the other day, but I wanted to add it to this one too, just so others can see that there is a trememdous difference and a notable advantage to buying the Kubota over JD 3032E, and sure the JD can be had with many of those same things that caused me to go orange, but they are options on the JD and standard on the Kub. Here are the most significant differences in the L3200 HSTand the 3032E:
1. Kubota had a quick-detach loader compared to the quick detach "bucket only" of the JD. (a kit can be purchased to make the JD loader detachable, for almost $400 more, plus installation)
2. Loader bucket lift height; Kubota was almost a foot higher lift.
3. Kubota has cruise control standard, optional on the JD (more $$)
4. Physical size and weight of the tractor, and tire size, Kubota was larger, heavier, and had larger front tires (in the R4's)
5. Kubota has an electronic fuel guage, compared to the "filler cap" guage on the JD.
6. Top speed, Kubota was almost 2 mph faster.
7. 3 range HST compared to 2 range on the JD.
8. Kubota comes standard with a drawbar, optional on the 3032E.
9. The biggest barrier for me to overcome on the JD, was that it is plastic! The hood, fenders, and even floorboard and step, are all made of plastic, compared to metal on the Kubota. I didn't have to think on that for long, to imagine what that green might look like after a few years in the sun, and after getting scratched up, etc. You sure won't be able to repaint it to make it look good again. Probably accounts for much of the 500+ lb. difference in weight too.
Anyway, I chose the Kubota, and I am very happy with my decision, hope this can be helpful to someone else.
1. Kubota had a quick-detach loader compared to the quick detach "bucket only" of the JD. (a kit can be purchased to make the JD loader detachable, for almost $400 more, plus installation)
2. Loader bucket lift height; Kubota was almost a foot higher lift.
3. Kubota has cruise control standard, optional on the JD (more $$)
4. Physical size and weight of the tractor, and tire size, Kubota was larger, heavier, and had larger front tires (in the R4's)
5. Kubota has an electronic fuel guage, compared to the "filler cap" guage on the JD.
6. Top speed, Kubota was almost 2 mph faster.
7. 3 range HST compared to 2 range on the JD.
8. Kubota comes standard with a drawbar, optional on the 3032E.
9. The biggest barrier for me to overcome on the JD, was that it is plastic! The hood, fenders, and even floorboard and step, are all made of plastic, compared to metal on the Kubota. I didn't have to think on that for long, to imagine what that green might look like after a few years in the sun, and after getting scratched up, etc. You sure won't be able to repaint it to make it look good again. Probably accounts for much of the 500+ lb. difference in weight too.
Anyway, I chose the Kubota, and I am very happy with my decision, hope this can be helpful to someone else.
I think the loader would probably pick on up but you probably want a larger tractor if you handle them much. You will need a good ballast on the 3ph too.
