L3800 50 hour service

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sadie72

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Kubota L3800 HST 4x4
I've hit the 50 hour mark and need to decide whether or not to perform the service myself, or bring the tractor to the dealer. Anyone know about how much the 'service' runs? If you've done it yourself, how much cash for supplies?
I'm looking to do what the manual recommends for the first 50 hour service only.

Thanks
 
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There is a great 3 part video on YouTube that shows this very service on an L3400. Just search under Kubota L3400 50 service. Lots to see and learn.
 
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Great videos. Thanks.

I plan to stick with the manual and not change hydro fluid, just filters. I spent 148 bucks on Kubota parts. The 'service' at the dealer is $525 bucks! That includes hydro change which the dealer recommends.
 
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Engine oil and filter and hydro filter. Nothing to it. :)
 
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Great videos. Thanks.

I plan to stick with the manual and not change hydro fluid, just filters. I spent 148 bucks on Kubota parts. The 'service' at the dealer is $525 bucks! That includes hydro change which the dealer recommends.

That sounds about right costwise in both instances.

Sean
 
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I plan to stick with the manual and not change hydro fluid, just filters. I spent 148 bucks on Kubota parts. The 'service' at the dealer is $525 bucks! That includes hydro change which the dealer recommends.

I had mine done last month at the dealer. He replaced all fluids including the hydro, filters and greased everything. Parts ran $180.86 plus tax (14.91). The hydro fluid added $47.25 to my parts cost, so my dealer charged me about $15 less than your parts cost overall.

He did not charge labor for the 50 hour service since that is his hook to win the service and maintenance business from new customers. The invoice states the labor savings was $160, so my total bill without the labor promotion would have run $440.86 plus tax on parts. Your dealer service is within $50 buck of mine, so that sounds to be a fairly reasonable variance to me. An advantage of dealer service to me was the front axle inspection and the chance to catch any issues under warranty that I might not be able to notice due to my novice knowledge and awareness status.
 
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I had mine done last month at the dealer. He replaced all fluids including the hydro, filters and greased everything. Parts ran $180.86 plus tax (14.91). The hydro fluid added $47.25 to my parts cost, so my dealer charged me about $15 less than your parts cost overall.

You're saying the hydraulic fluid was only 47.25? What did they use? 27 litres of UDT Premium is over $100 here, at about $80 for a 5 gallon (19 litre) pail.

Sean
 
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I did the 50 hour on my L3800, there is a thread I wrote to cover the steps if you do a search. Quite easy to do yourself and not much of a mess. I went w/ the manual and did not change hydro fluid yet, just the filter. My advice, save some money and get to know your tractor a little bit better by doing it yourself.
 
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Amen there Redsox!
 
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I just finished the 150 hour maintenance, ease. The biggest problem that I had with the 50 hour is that I did not expect to loose so much HST fulid when I changed the filters. I had a little trouble putting on the new filter. I had to buy another gallon of HST fulid, that stuff is not cheep. I like to do my own maintenance, I think its fun. Plus like was said before, it's good to get to know your tractor.

The manual's pictures for greesing the front axle on the 4x4 model was a little hard to understand were the second greese fitting was. If I remeber right, there is one on the pivot point and one on the front drive shaft.
 
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The manual's pictures for greesing the front axle on the 4x4 model was a little hard to understand were the second greese fitting was. If I remeber right, there is one on the pivot point and one on the front drive shaft.

There are two grease fittings on the front axle pivot. One in front of the axle and one back of the front axle.

It is very important both these fittings get grease regularly!
 
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You're saying the hydraulic fluid was only 47.25? What did they use? 27 litres of UDT Premium is over $100 here, at about $80 for a 5 gallon (19 litre) pail.

Sean

Chilly, you made me go back and look and I was mistaken. I did not get a full hydro fluid replacement, it was only 2.5 gallons for lost fluid during the filter change. I misread the invoice. :ashamed:
 
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Chilly, you made me go back and look and I was mistaken. I did not get a full hydro fluid replacement, it was only 2.5 gallons for lost fluid during the filter change. I misread the invoice. :ashamed:


Hmm.. I lost less than a quart when I changed both hydraulic and Hydrostat filter in my L3400HST. I did have the wife manning the vacuum cleaner on the filler port though... 2.5 gallons. maybe the mechanic didn't hurry any.:ashamed:

James K0UA
 
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There are two grease fittings on the front axle pivot. One in front of the axle and one back of the front axle.

It is very important both these fittings get grease regularly!

:shocked:What!! The book did not call out that fitting. Thank you very much for telling me about this. I greased it today before mowing.
 
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:shocked:What!! The book did not call out that fitting. Thank you very much for telling me about this. I greased it today before mowing.

Yep the back one is pretty easy to miss. if you don't think about it.

James K0UA
 
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thanks for allowing me to jump in..... :)

I am do for my 5 hour as well. went to the dealer to get all the filters and oil and they said only three filters. "No transmission" filter needed according to the computer. The manual states otherwhise and I showed him. Low and behold there IS a transmission filter. Are they the same? Hydraulic Filter on right of machine, and Transmission Filter on left? Wonder why the dealer didnt know that? I gotta call back....
 
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ranger4327 said:
thanks for allowing me to jump in..... :)

I am do for my 5 hour as well. went to the dealer to get all the filters and oil and they said only three filters. "No transmission" filter needed according to the computer. The manual states otherwhise and I showed him. Low and behold there IS a transmission filter. Are they the same? Hydraulic Filter on right of machine, and Transmission Filter on left? Wonder why the dealer didnt know that? I gotta call back....

Yes, the transmission filter is smaller than the hydraulic filter. I had to inform my dealer as well. Hope it went as smooth for you as my 50 hr service went for me. Nothing to it...keep your receipts to show you used Kubota hardware.
 
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I did the 50 hour on my L3800, there is a thread I wrote to cover the steps if you do a search. Quite easy to do yourself and not much of a mess. I went w/ the manual and did not change hydro fluid yet, just the filter. My advice, save some money and get to know your tractor a little bit better by doing it yourself.

That is my plan. Is there anything more to the shop vac idea than just putting the hose over the fill neck? I am going to try to find Napa part # for the filters. My Dealer in central Ma is also a Napa dealer so I will go there. I am just doing the 50 hour stuff, don't see the need to do anything else.
 
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I am going to try to find Napa part # for the filters. My Dealer in central Ma is also a Napa dealer so I will go there. I am just doing the 50 hour stuff, don't see the need to do anything else.

It has been said many times, many ways, and certainly not all agree, but: Why would you look to save twenty bucks or so by using NAPA filters instead of Factory Kubota? Fluids are the life blood of your twenty thousand dollar tractor and Kubota filters are engineered by Kubota for their tractors. If you use Filter XYZ from Napa will your tractor fail next week? Of course not but think of the guy that will own the tractor in ten/fifteen years when it has 5,000 hours on it.

Not only should you use Kubota filters but to protect your machine and insure maximum resale value, send an oil sample to Blackstone Labs after a year's run on your engine and keep the annual reports with your owner's manual. That costs thirty bucks and is probably worth a thousand if you go to sell your machine and have evidence of no abnormal engine wear, regular oil changes and.....Kubota filters.
 
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I got Kubota hydraulic filters and a Napa gold filter for the engine. They are made by Wix and are high quality. I have sent in oil samples to blackstone for other vehicles like my 2002 Duramax. 200,000 and going strong. It will be good to get a base sample for the engine.
 

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