which tractor when weight limited by tow vehicle??

[madmax12]

Thanks for the suggestion, I do have a local Mahindra dealer and visited him this week. He showed me the 3016 (too heavy) but didn't mention the Max28XL, probably didn't have one in stock?? I was impressed by the 5 year warranty on the Mahindra. I'll check out the Max28XL before I buy.

Yes, I'm aware that a larger tractor &/or a larger tow vehicle would be "better"......but, as I stated in the original post, I AM limited by the size of the tow vehicle and I DO NOT want to buy a different tow vehicle and a new tractor.

I have been mowing the roads on my place with a little IH 234 and a 5' finishing mower.......2wd, 1200 pounds and 18hp.......I have even successfully planted small food plots with it......I could continue using it, but new fire breaks and larger food plots would be much easier to maintain with a larger tractor......so, I'm looking at tractors that have almost double the weight and horsepower and some people want to tell me that I can't do what I want to do with it???

I'm not starting a farming operation here!!! I'm talking 3-4 acres of food plots and brush hogging.......yes, I will use the FEL, but it is a luxury, not a necessity and I can certainly leave a ballast box at the property to use while there......I wouldn't leave a brush hog or disc, but I doubt anyone would steal a ballast box!!

Anyway, back to the original question.........what tractors are available in the 30 horse range, 4wd, that weighs 2250 or less??

The Max28XL has the same motor as the 3016. According to the PDFs, the Max28XL has more PTO HP than the 3016. But, the FEL and 3pt are stronger on the 3016.
In it's size, I had determined that the Max28XL had the strongest FEL, which was one of the reasons I chose it. If the FEL is less important for your needs, then so is the Max series.

Massey, for example offers a 3 range HST vs the Max 2 range (whereas the 3016 has 3 range, I think). Kubota might too, I'm not certain.

If lift capacity were primary, I would look no further than Max28. But if that's not important, than any of the brands 4wd is gonna blow your 2wd away. I leave mine in 2wd most of the time, but am really glad for the locking differential and the 4wd... it is amazing how easily a 2wd machine can get stuck.

What I did first, was open several browser windows on my desktop. Then bring up every brand of interest and go to the model of interest. Then compare window to window. Some of the brands attempt to do the comparison for you, but they "play" with that a little... like leaving Mahindra out, for example. Also, whatever dealers are near enough for your needs, go sit in all the models u are interested in. I sat on the 27hp LS and hated it. But the 33hp LS was a dream, but like you, the LS G3033 was too large for my needs. Some on the forum said the Max28 was too cramped. for me the Max28 is extremely roomy and comfortable. But the Max22/25 felt too cramped for me, even though they are also very powerful machines.

And then there is price. In my area, the LS was the cheapest, by far. But I did not pick it, for the reasons given above. Mahindra was the next best price and the strongest machine, by far.

Hope this is helpful.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

I would say that for the few trips you are making you should be able to load your vehicle close to the full tow rating. Conservative driving will make a bigger difference with respect to safety and wear and tear on the vehicle. Now if you are driving steep grades, etc. it may be a different story.

So I'll recommend the L3400
Edit: I guess it will still be over with loader so your B3300 choice looks like a good one.

 

[GonHuntin]

Thanks to all those who offered helpful answers......I do appreciate it.

You seem to know it all, why don't you tell us?

cartod.....since I "know everything", here is a bit of advice for you.......when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, but some of us have many tools to choose from......try not to be such a turd, it will make your life a lot more enjoyable!!

 

[cartod]

Thanks to all those who offered helpful answers......I do appreciate it.







cartod.....since I "know everything", here is a bit of advice for you.......when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, but some of us have many tools to choose from......try not to be such a turd, it will make your life a lot more enjoyable!!

Turd? I will wear it with pride.

My point is still that you cannot have it all. A light tractor is not a tractor at all. After all, traction is the whole idea. Maybe you could get a real tractor, the kinds that is heavy, and transport it in sections.

 

[GonHuntin]

I never asked to "have it all"......I asked what tractor would fit my parameters. Like I said, I have been getting by with a 1200 pound, 2wd, 18 horse tractor, I hardly think a tractor with almost double the weight and power is "not a tractor at all"......however, a large tractor that I can't transport to where I need it is absolutely NO tractor at all!!!

Look at it this way........a guy that farms many thousand acres with a JD 9r would consider your "littler" 3320 to be "not a tractor at all" too, but that doesn't mean it won't work for what you need it to do!!

 

[case245]

I WOULD CONSIDER A KUBOTA L4600 with fel and your brush hog that would be the limit for your truck im guessing you have a 1/2 ton truck no less of a tractor the L3800 is to small the l4600 is 500 ibs heavier the l3800 i had one for 2 months traded up to an 7040sud ANY TRACTOR S BETTER THEN NO TRACTOR AT ALL

 

[daugen]

Kioti and Mahindra are also high quality, but go the heavy iron route, which is exactly what is helpful
getting traction in a field but not for the weight limited. Cub Cadet/Yanmar might be a better solution. I am comparing a Kubota ML5740 cab to a JD 4720. Both similar and very nice tractors, though the Kubota is
at least ten percent less expensive. And both hit my weight limit for my Suburban 2500 nicely, without overload, since when the tractor moves there are likely to be
two or more implements loaded with it. So all that has to be added up carefully. I want a larger tractor (currently have a Case IH 255) with a cab for summer mowing, and
the mower is as big as my current tractor. So length of all the equipment is important too, as well as weight. A lot of variables for sure.

always better to de-escalate, if you can...We all need to remember that we come from widely different backgrounds. No one likes a smart *** or a know it all, and I didn't take you that way, just
frustrated trying to get a needed answer. I've been through the exact same process so I hear you. Others who get their equipment delivered to their properties and it never leaves are more focused on other
priorities.

If price is a limitation,my suggestion is to consider low hour used rather than skimp on a new model. If you go to Kubota's part of tractordata.com you can click on increasingly larger models until you reach your weight limit.
Might look at non current models too, some of these are barn queens.

Volvo Rents is near enough to me that I can rent a five ton trailer and even a big truck if I wanted to. But I'm buying a new tractor partially because my first one weighs about a ton bare plus "only" 2wd, so I just run out of traction
at times. And putting a FEL on a one ton tractor is pretty limiting as to what can be picked up, so you'll need good counterweights. Lastly, I suppose a gear trans might save a little weight and/or transmit a little more hp for you.
The frequent mention of Kubota here should give you a good hint of where to start. Hope this helps. Drew

 

[meburdick]

Look at the Deere 2720 31hp engine, 3032E and 3038E with 30ptohp all are below your weight of 2250lbs.

How would the 2720 fit the OP's constraints? The tractor itself is 1973lbs... You're not leaving much room to put the loader and a bucket on there and stay under the 2250.

To the OP - While I realize that your post is "not about the tow vehicle", why are you opposed to, at minimum, telling us exactly what you will be towing WITH? I see no mention of the year, make, model, or even STYLE of vehicle that you're planning on hitching up to.

Also - you should be considerate of the fact that you simply aren't going to get what you want AND be able to tow it safely. Period.

If you are looking at a tractor with a FEL and brush hog, you're looking at needing an 18' trailer AT THE MINIMUM. And that might even be too short. If you don't go with a long enough trailer, you're going to have the weigh balanced wrong, and you'll have WAY too much tongue weight on the tow vehicle.

And, for what it's worth, your 1500 pound estimate for a trailer, even at short than 18', is way low unless you're talking about a landscape trailer. And there's now way I would load my tractor on a landscape trailer to be towed any distance at all.

 

[GonHuntin]

I listed the towing capacity in my original post, the year make and model of the tow vehicle is irrelevant and listing that info would probably bring on more people who would say you can't tow 5000 with that and others who would say it will tow much more than 5000 which just adds to the confusion of the thread.

The maximum towing capacity of my vehicle is 5000 pounds per the manufacturer.

I realize that the tractor, fel, brush hog and trailer will possibly weigh more than the max towing capacity, but there is no reason I have to have the fel and brush hog on the tractor at the same time.

This ain't rocket science here folks........I'm not asking if you would buy a different tow vehicle, I'm not asking how much weight I can safely tow with my existing tow vehicle, I'm not asking if you think a tractor in this class will do what I want it to do, I'm not asking how long or how heavy the trailer should be, I'm not asking if a heavier tractor would work better and I'm not asking what kind of tractor you think you need for what you do..........

So, let's forget about the tow vehicle, the trailer and the weight of any implements I might or might not use with the tractor and get back to the original question: "I'm currently looking at the Kubota B3300 which, according to Kubota, weighs around 1900 without the FEL, but would appreciate any other suggestions in the 30 horsepower class that fit within the weight limit (2250 #)."

Other than the Kubota B3300, what other tractors fit into the 30hp class and weigh at or close to 2250 pounds??

Thanks

 

[madmax12]

Can't remember the name of the tractor but it's lightweight high HP. The frame is made from unobtainium or something like that. Not sure where its made though. I saw it on the internet so I know its real. Anyone else out there see it?

Unobtainium??? That's funny