which tractor when weight limited by tow vehicle??

[joshuabardwell]

If you are talking about hauling your CT225, then, according to tractordata.com, you tractor weighs just over 3000 with no attachments.......are you saying your trailer won't carry your tractor with no attachments??

It's 3k, right. Plus 500 for the loader, plus about 500 for an implement. Puts me at around 4k for the cargo, all in. Trailer itself is 1650. That leaves me 1350 under the 7000 lb GVWR of the trailer. And yeah, what I'm saying is, I don't feel comfortable towing that load with this trailer.

Let me reiterate that it's got nothing to do with the weight. The trailer is rated for 7k, and I would tow 7k with it. But when you put all the weight over the tires' contact patches, it's not what the trailer was made to do. The cross-members on my trailer are 2x3 angle iron. On the equivalent car hauler from the same manufacturer, they're C channel. I can see a place where the rear of the trailer is juuuust the tiniest bit bowed from where I drove the tractor on when loading it. Another person out there might carry this tractor with this trailer. I don't think it's in any way unsafe. I just think that if I had kept doing it, I was going to ruin my trailer before too long. I think I would have ended up with sagging cross-members, for example.

Remember, the tractors I'm looking at weigh about 2000, or less, with no attachments??? As stated in an earlier post, I have hauled 2000 on my singe axle 5x10 with no problems......can't imagine a 16' dual axle trailer, rated at 7000 pounds, that won't handle a 3000 pound load.....

I'm not trying to do any math for you or tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just sharing my experience. I have towed 4k on this trailer before, and it was 100% fine. But when I put the tractor up there, there was no doubt in my mind I was going to break something if I kept it up. Not the axles, mind you, because they are clearly rated for the weight, and when it comes to axles, that's that. But the frame of the trailer was just crying "ouch" the whole time the tractor was up there. Speaking for myself, if I need to haul a vehicle or a tractor, I'm going to get a trailer made to do exactly that. Utility trailers are made for carrying lawn mowers and ATVs, not one-ton-plus tractors and automobiles.

But look, I think I should revise my comment a little bit. I just went and compared my trailer with the equivalent length flatbed equipment trailer from the same manufacturer. My trailer is 1620; the equivalent length flatbed equipment trailer is 1820. So there's actually not that much difference in their weight.

 

[JBowie]

The red font really helps. This is a forum, a community of folks who like to talk about tractors and what they do with them. It's not a "help desk" or an opportunity to quiz members. You might try having a conversation. Good luck with your purchase.

 

[daugen]

GonHunting,
I hate to see this tit for tat in what is normally a friendly forum.
But it isn't always. I was roasted as a newbie on this forum earlier this year
when I posted an emotional email that was too hard on a dealer, and I should have approached
the matter differently. I learned. I may have been right, but I was very wrong...

You aren't going to enjoy this forum if you want bullet point answers to your questions. Everyone on here throws in some
anecdotal experiences, and everyone just wants to be helpful. Myself included.
I suggested you "de-escalate" earlier, and that fell on deaf ears. It doesn't matter if you "are right"; you have to get along with everyone, or
I suppose most people, or a voluntary forum turns into a YouTube experience where trolls and flamers seems to rule.

You clearly are an educated guy with lots of experience. You posed a general "what's best" question, with specific parameters, and it wasn't just "the most hp", but you
opened the door for all kinds of responses and you got them. And they frustrated you, and your responses show it.

Instead of telling us we are all idiots for not reading your question properly, maybe a "help!we need to get on track here. All good responses but here's what I really need".
Yes, you tried doing that several times, but you were sarcastic to people genuinely trying to help you. It would have been helpful if you put your question in context a little better,
and the responses might have been better shaped. You are new, no one knows your knowledge level. It's hard to be helpful, and concise, when you don't know your audience.

Many of us have "too small" a tractor. Life isn't perfect, and this is a hobby only for many of us. So many people here have experiences with "too small" and even how dangerous the wrong equipment can be.
So you heard a lot of concern for you from experience, not just busting your chops.

Now I haven't said one thing about a Kubota, other than what I said before, so I guess this could be just noise too. btw, the pic I showed earlier of my 25 hp tractor and mower shows a 18'2" total rig length.
peace
Drew

 

[moriboy]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned already:

Make sure whatever you purchase has a detachable loader. Go ahead and buy the biggest tractor you can and ignore the loader weight. Simply
Have your dealer deliver the tractor/fel to your property, and from there you can simply detach the loader and haul only the tractor back and forth.

 

[GonHuntin]

The red font really helps. This is a forum, a community of folks who like to talk about tractors and what they do with them. It's not a "help desk" or an opportunity to quiz members. You might try having a conversation. Good luck with your purchase.

You joined the forum this month, you have 25 posts......and you are telling me how the forum works???

As far as the red font......I used it so I could reply within a post to add clarity.......

 

[crazyal]

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even good friends can disagree and get a little too over the top. The way I see it is someone I don't know is about to spend a lot of money on a tractor. That usually puts people out of their comfort zone. So when people ask for advice they usually have a clear picture in their mind but don't always write in a way that everyone sees clearly what they are trying to ask. At the same time people who have been here for some time often miss little parts or assume something that wasn't typed, I've done it myself lots of times.

 

[scrappy isb67]

you are not going to find a 30+ hp tractor WITH loader that weighs under #2250! even my 24 hp, #1600 tractor weighs MORE than #2250 with BALLAST and loader!

 

[daugen]

nicely said crazyal. Enthusiastic and caring members will usually ask too many questions, want too many parameters defined, because they've either been there before
or have read something here in the forum. They know you can't make a good decision or give good advice without all the facts.
No matter how perfectly you think you ask the question, someone will answer you imperfectly. Your job is to sort through what you read and make the best decision
for yourself.

I'm glad you finally got some good answers GonHuntin. But please, don't bite the hands that feed you, even if the food is pretty bad...
Personally I would be spreadsheeting all the dimensional data, and doing my model homework before asking a question here. There is a huge knowledge base for Kubotas in this forum,
not including me, so if you come up with a short list, I hope you come back and share that with all of us. Sometimes life is defined in 5000, 7000 and 10,000 pound increments. It is for me too.