which tractor when weight limited by tow vehicle??

[radioman]

I am not questioning the need for 30 hp- but have you thought of a lesser tractor? A bx? I see in your post you are willing to make extra trips which is fine as long you dont mind.
With one of the poster saying you need a 18ft trailer will only decrease the available weight of tractor possible so you just need to look at tractors in person and bring a measurement tape for length of tractor with attachments attached just to see what will work for you so will a 16ft trailer work or must you use 18ft?

I wonder if you thought about why your truck is limited to 5k towing? usually its only because of tire rating or gearing or both. If it only the gearing, have you thought of swapping out the rear gears so it has a higher ratio for better towing ? or just keep the truck from shifting higher the 3rd or 4th as long rev is not too high like above 3k rpms?

I am afraid I cant help much with other tractor types weight unless you look at whats available near you and just do the math. Oh- will you be loading the rear tires ? that will add a considerable amount of weight

 

[meburdick]

I listed the towing capacity in my original post, the year make and model of the tow vehicle is irrelevant and listing that info would probably bring on more people who would say you can't tow 5000 with that and others who would say it will tow much more than 5000 which just adds to the confusion of the thread.

The maximum towing capacity of my vehicle is 5000 pounds per the manufacturer.

I realize that the tractor, fel, brush hog and trailer will possibly weigh more than the max towing capacity, but there is no reason I have to have the fel and brush hog on the tractor at the same time.

This ain't rocket science here folks........I'm not asking if you would buy a different tow vehicle, I'm not asking how much weight I can safely tow with my existing tow vehicle, I'm not asking if you think a tractor in this class will do what I want it to do, I'm not asking how long or how heavy the trailer should be, I'm not asking if a heavier tractor would work better and I'm not asking what kind of tractor you think you need for what you do..........

So, let's forget about the tow vehicle, the trailer and the weight of any implements I might or might not use with the tractor and get back to the original question: "I'm currently looking at the Kubota B3300 which, according to Kubota, weighs around 1900 without the FEL, but would appreciate any other suggestions in the 30 horsepower class that fit within the weight limit (2250 #)."

Other than the Kubota B3300, what other tractors fit into the 30hp class and weigh at or close to 2250 pounds??

Thanks

You came to this forum to ask those with knowledge to share with you. As we have asked for a little more information to make sure that we're giving you solid guidance, you've pointed out the ways in which you already know more than we do.

So, it would seem that you should already have this answer as well.

With regard to not needing the FEL at the remote property, that was not clear from your original post. Another item not clear is whether you're looking for a tractor with a 30HP motor, or 30HP available at the PTO.

I also don't understand why, with the incidental number of times you'll need to tow such a relatively short distance why you are "insisting" on staying at no more than 85% of towing capacity.

But, those are also likely answers you already have and don't need those from us either.

The reason that I asked you about the tow vehicle is because the ratings from the manufacturers sometimes need to be looked at from a couple of different perspectives to be sure that the WAY in which you tow keeps you within the guidelines.

Once again, though, you already know more than us.

Happy researching.

 

[GonHuntin]

You came to this forum to ask those with knowledge to share with you. As we have asked for a little more information to make sure that we're giving you solid guidance, you've pointed out the ways in which you already know more than we do.

So, it would seem that you should already have this answer as well.

With regard to not needing the FEL at the remote property, that was not clear from your original post. Another item not clear is whether you're looking for a tractor with a 30HP motor, or 30HP available at the PTO.

I also don't understand why, with the incidental number of times you'll need to tow such a relatively short distance why you are "insisting" on staying at no more than 85% of towing capacity.

But, those are also likely answers you already have and don't need those from us either.

The reason that I asked you about the tow vehicle is because the ratings from the manufacturers sometimes need to be looked at from a couple of different perspectives to be sure that the WAY in which you tow keeps you within the guidelines.

Once again, though, you already know more than us.

Happy researching.

It would be nice if people would just answer the question asked instead of worrying about whether I know enough to set the parameters I specified.

I didn't say anything about not needing the FEL and brush hog at the same time because it makes absolutely no difference in answering the question I asked......as stated, I need to keep the weight of the tractor at or below 2250......if you will notice, when I discussed the total weight of the tractor brush hog and trailer, I made no mention of the FEL in that equation.....but I guess maybe you missed that, or just assumed something that was NOT specified??


I have been towing trailers for 30 plus years, I don't need, and did not ask for a lesson in towing or tow ratings.........so instead of asking a bunch of questions that have absolutely NOTHING to do with my original question, why not just answer the question I asked??

If my original post had just said: "Other than the Kubota B3300, what other tractors fit into the 30hp class and weigh at or close to 2250 pounds??" would you have felt the need to lecture me on tow ratings, trailer weights and all the other stuff?? Would others have felt the need to tell me that a tractor weighing 2250 or less wouldn't do what I need it to do and recommend that I buy something completely different than the class of tractor I asked about??

I don't think so.......yet, when I added a small amount of additional info, I get all kinds of suggestions, and warnings that don't do me one bit of good....how much worse would it have been if I had given even more details about my tow vehicle??


No, as a matter of fact, I don't think I know more than all of you, but, I do know what I need in a tractor.......that's why I asked the question.....apparently some people aren't able to simply answer the question asked without injecting a bunch of other "stuff" into the conversation.....that's fine, but to get all bent out of shape when I say I don't need or want all the other "stuff" is just foolish. You, on the other hand, must think you know more than I do or you wouldn't be second guessing the parameters I stated in the original post.

Now, if you know of other 4wd tractors in the 30hp class, that weigh no more than 2250 pounds, I'd appreciate hearing about them........if not, then you really are wasting time that I'm sure you could use better elsewhere.

Thanks

 

[GonHuntin]

I am not questioning the need for 30 hp- but have you thought of a lesser tractor? A bx? I see in your post you are willing to make extra trips which is fine as long you dont mind.
With one of the poster saying you need a 18ft trailer will only decrease the available weight of tractor possible so you just need to look at tractors in person and bring a measurement tape for length of tractor with attachments attached just to see what will work for you so will a 16ft trailer work or must you use 18ft?

I wonder if you thought about why your truck is limited to 5k towing? usually its only because of tire rating or gearing or both. If it only the gearing, have you thought of swapping out the rear gears so it has a higher ratio for better towing ? or just keep the truck from shifting higher the 3rd or 4th as long rev is not too high like above 3k rpms?

I am afraid I cant help much with other tractor types weight unless you look at whats available near you and just do the math. Oh- will you be loading the rear tires ? that will add a considerable amount of weight

Thanks for the input......I have thought about a smaller tractor but I want to get the biggest tractor I can that still fits the parameters I listed. I did not say I need an 18' trailer, that came from someone else and, according to the Kubota specs on the B3300, a 16' trailer should work fine. I have no plans to load the rear tires right now because that would put me at or over the weight I want to see.......however, I have kept that idea in mind if or when I ever get a larger tow vehicle.

So far, I have looked at Kubota, Mahindra, Cub (yanmar), New Holland and Massey Ferguson.......of course, the dealers I visited did not have all the models in stock, so I haven't seen everything available from those lines and it is difficult to get a real feel for a tractor by looking at photos and specs online. I plan to also look at LS and Branson before I buy and may look at Kioti but the nearest dealer is 50 miles away.

 

[Deere9798]

You might look at a John Deere 955 it has relatively high hp to weight,2000 lbs

 

[GonHuntin]

You might look at a John Deere 955 it has relatively high hp to weight,2000 lbs

Thanks, that does look like it fits the weight and hp I need.....that is one I didn't know about.....and that's exactly why I asked the question here!!

 

[MarkV]

I have some ideas but am afraid to get insulted like so many others, 'turds', "is that to much to ask', 'some people just can't answer a simple question', 'it ain't rocket science here folks'. My safest suggestion is to get on the internet and find out what other 30 hp tractors weigh what you think is in your limits. Gonhuntin, nobody here came looking for you to tell you what to buy, you came asking opinions. Hard to develop much of a relationship as a new guy when you slam everything everyone has to say based on their opinion. Believe I am done with this thread.

MarkV

 

[GonHuntin]

I have some ideas but am afraid to get insulted like so many others, 'turds', "is that to much to ask', 'some people just can't answer a simple question', 'it ain't rocket science here folks'. My safest suggestion is to get on the internet and find out what other 30 hp tractors weigh what you think is in your limits. Gonhuntin, nobody here came looking for you to tell you what to buy, you came asking opinions. Hard to develop much of a relationship as a new guy when you slam everything everyone has to say based on their opinion. Believe I am done with this thread.

MarkV

Excuse me for being honest.....the fact that someone gets upset because it is pointed out to them that the questions they are answering aren't the ones being asked is not my problem.

Problem is, instead of helping by actually answering the question I asked, I got suggestions to buy something I don't need and can't use, warnings that what I'm considering won't work (since when will a 30hp tractor NOT run a brush hog?) and lectures about tow vehicles and tow ratings......so, if you REALLY have an answer to my question, I'd appreciate hearing it......otherwise, your post is just more noise.

 

[StanR]

Interesting way to ask for help. ... You would have been better off looking up the info yourself. Google works pretty good.. I know more noise.. Carry on. :2cents:

 

[Gary Fowler]

did you ever go to the Tractordata.com website and look up the specs on the tractor models available in your area. That is the simplest solution to your question. Tractordata.com lists most of the specs on MOST of the tractors ever sold. For what you are looking for, that is simply the easiest solution. Your local salesman at the dealership is likely not going to have the answers for you without looking them up so do it yourself before you go.