5E series.

[crowbar032]

I have a 5065E, granted it has less than 50 hours on it (30+ put on it by my Dad). I like the tractor and coming from a 1955 TO-35 Ferguson and a 1968 150 Massey Ferguson, it's leap years ahead even though it doesn't have all the electronic "junk" on it. The hardest thing I'm having to get used to is the PTO engagement. I kinda miss my two stage clutch. For me, reverse is way too fast in any range but A. The transmission is not synchronised between ranges so that means complete full stop, clutch, change range, move, clutch, stop, change range, move.......you get the point. It is synchronised between gears though. The 5065E is 73 inches wide, which will not "cut out your tracks" with a 6 ft rotary cutter. Finding attachments is also something else to keep in mind, around me 6 ft used attachments are pretty common but not so much with 7-8 ft attachments.

 

[Grateful11]

Thanks for the input guys!

I guess my original thought was for the money and the sheer size and power of the 5E series, there is nothing better for the money, your getting a lot of tractor.

I will stick to the 4x20 series!

Also I'm not positive abut this but I believe the 4520 and 4720 has Auto-Throttle like Kubota's Grand L series, I don't think it has Stall Guard but the Auto-Throttle is really nice. If the dealer had told us this or if I had researched it a bit deeper we may have bought a Deere instead of the Kubota, well let's just say it would have gotten a better look at it.

 

[Grateful11]

I have a 5065E, granted it has less than 50 hours on it (30+ put on it by my Dad). I like the tractor and coming from a 1955 TO-35 Ferguson and a 1968 150 Massey Ferguson, it's leap years ahead even though it doesn't have all the electronic "junk" on it. The hardest thing I'm having to get used to is the PTO engagement. I kinda miss my two stage clutch. For me, reverse is way too fast in any range but A. The transmission is not synchronised between ranges so that means complete full stop, clutch, change range, move, clutch, stop, change range, move.......you get the point. It is synchronised between gears though. The 5065E is 73 inches wide, which will not "cut out your tracks" with a 6 ft rotary cutter. Finding attachments is also something else to keep in mind, around me 6 ft used attachments are pretty common but not so much with 7-8 ft attachments.

Wife and son found out about the reverse thing. The reverse on a Power Reverser 5000M series is faster than forward in every gear. I personally think that's kinda backwards. I think it will do something like 20mph in reverse, can't even imagine that. The CaseIH 5140 won't even let you go into reverse in the highest range, good idea if you ask me. Friend of mine has a 5115M and was turning left off the road and popped her into reverse in D4, highest speed, didn't take long to figure out what he had done and popped it back into forward.

 

[arlen4720]

Also I'm not positive abut this but I believe the 4520 and 4720 has Auto-Throttle like Kubota's Grand L series, I don't think it has Stall Guard but the Auto-Throttle is really nice. If the dealer had told us this or if I had researched it a bit deeper we may have bought a Deere instead of the Kubota, well let's just say it would have gotten a better look at it.

The 4520 and 4720 have the eThrottle (auto throttle) as well as LoadMatch (Stall guard). Both work great. Another benifit of eHydro over mechanical HST is pedal effort is very low on eHydro. The ehydro is a joy to operate. Very precise movements combined with the manuverability of a 4x20, throw in a self leveling loader (400cx), and you will think you died and went to heaven.

 

[crowbar032]

Another thing about my 5065E is that it is very cold natured, even this summer when it was OMG hot. I had the dealer install the plug in heater as an option. I'm confident in my theory that it will not start without being plugged in this winter. I'm going to try to start without plugging in just to test, but I'll just about put money on it not starting. Not sure if this is a diesel thing, a JD thing, or an individual quirk thing.

 

[Rmd8136]

Anyone know how much the power reverser Trans will cost over the sync on say a 5065?

 

[Piston]

Anyone know how much the power reverser Trans will cost over the sync on say a 5065?

Can't help with price, but I found it odd that they don't list the 12/12 power reverser as an option on the smaller 5e series on the website.

 

[michellesc7]

This is for the guy looking for the tractor- my two cents.
If you want good maneuverability and not too many frills look at the yanmar made 4005 - sit in it and try it out. plenty around new and used and there are also many 990s out which is the earlier version. don't be afraid to buy a tractor with less than 600 hrs on it.

I strongly considered the 4005 and the 990 used for a mid-line general chore farm tractor. very reliable. it is also a good woods tractor but alot of shifting.

I priced new 4020 series- 4120 and 4320. I ended up with a used PST with loader 4120 for my middle tractor. Still holding on to my jd 1050 (aka 970).
Phenomenal turning radius on my 4120 incredible handling and awesome lifting capacity for the size. I like the PST over the ehydro. My opinion is you own your power with the PST. On the 4020 new price or used - you get your monies worth on these tractors. (Yes I looked hard at mahindras and kubotas also)

And I looked at the Indian made 5045E through 65E. good tractors and i hear they are made across the street from where my mahindra tractor was born.

My favorite tractor for heavy work is the beasty 4.5 L/276 hp 5400 to 5500 old series (00s,10s,20s). (new ones are the 5065Ms on up) If you can find one of these with less than 2000 hrs and affordable buy it! It is my top choice for heavier work. I may do that and let my 65hp Mahindra go.

So I highly recommend the 4005 or 990 for simple work like bushhogging. If you are going to go back and forth alot like box blading get the 4020 series used like i did . With loader you can get one in the low 20s with PST or hydro with any tires you want you just have to look hard, let the dealers know you are looking for one and they will look out for you. that's how i got mine. And if you think you have heavy work to do now or on the horizon scrap what i just said and go get that used beast 5400 or 5500 series.
Stay with 4wd on any choice. My opinion is that the 4020 series will out perform the Indian 5000E series especially with extra weights and water in the tires.

This is my advice.

 

[Edward. S]

This is for the guy looking for the tractor- my two cents.
If you want good maneuverability and not too many frills look at the yanmar made 4005 - sit in it and try it out. plenty around new and used and there are also many 990s out which is the earlier version. don't be afraid to buy a tractor with less than 600 hrs on it.

I strongly considered the 4005 and the 990 used for a mid-line general chore farm tractor. very reliable. it is also a good woods tractor but alot of shifting.

I priced new 4020 series- 4120 and 4320. I ended up with a used PST with loader 4120 for my middle tractor. Still holding on to my jd 1050 (aka 970).
Phenomenal turning radius on my 4120 incredible handling and awesome lifting capacity for the size. I like the PST over the ehydro. My opinion is you own your power with the PST. On the 4020 new price or used - you get your monies worth on these tractors. (Yes I looked hard at mahindras and kubotas also)

And I looked at the Indian made 5045E through 65E. good tractors and i hear they are made across the street from where my mahindra tractor was born.

My favorite tractor for heavy work is the beasty 4.5 L/276 hp 5400 to 5500 old series (00s,10s,20s). (new ones are the 5065Ms on up) If you can find one of these with less than 2000 hrs and affordable buy it! It is my top choice for heavier work. I may do that and let my 65hp Mahindra go.

So I highly recommend the 4005 or 990 for simple work like bushhogging. If you are going to go back and forth alot like box blading get the 4020 series used like i did . With loader you can get one in the low 20s with PST or hydro with any tires you want you just have to look hard, let the dealers know you are looking for one and they will look out for you. that's how i got mine. And if you think you have heavy work to do now or on the horizon scrap what i just said and go get that used beast 5400 or 5500 series.
Stay with 4wd on any choice. My opinion is that the 4020 series will out perform the Indian 5000E series especially with extra weights and water in the tires.

This is my advice.

I don't think so, the 5E is a lot more tractor, the 5E 4WD weighs about 5000 lbs and a 4020 series no cab weighs about 3700 lbs.

5E has
Bigger tires
Geared Transmission for more torque in the ground / For eHydro owners
More lift capacity, loader and 3pt.
Bigger cab for 2013 5E
More Power for about the same price
Bigger frame
Longer wheelbase

Who would really want to load up another 1000 lbs on such a small frame tractor, for the price of a 4020 series you can buy a 5075E or even a 5083E Limited. Lots of members on here went for the 5083E instead of the 45/4720.

By the way the 5065M and 5075M doesn't have a 4.5L it has a small 3.0L that's the same engine as a 4020 series with another cylinder.

I know you may not like the 5E but you do not have to criticize the buyer to switch to another series or brand. There are two people in the world, people who will love it and people who will hate it.

I've owned many 5000 series, and still own some up to today, such as a 5200, 5225, 5310, 5400 ( sold ), 5510 ( sold ), 5420, 2010 5085M ( going soon) and a Model Year 2012 5085M IT4 Emissions coming in around October 15.

 

[Trent Hickford]

I have to Agree with Edward on this one, After farming for most of my life The 5E series seems like more of a tractor to me and the 4020 Series seems more like a lawnmower In my opinion.
2nd thing is just like Edward. S said... Why buy a ̶L̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶T̶r̶a̶c̶t̶o̶r̶ Whoops I mean lawnmower* and overload it with weights and water on such a light frame?
So IMHO get the 5E... For a little bit more you are getting a Full size tractor that is going to last you many years of hard work instead of just a "Fancy Lawnmower"

@michellesc7 "I like the PST over the ehydro."
Just to let you know, "PST" stands for Poweshift, the transmission used on 7000,8000,9000 series tractors, John Deere has never offered powershift for the 4020 Series tractors, Only a PowrReverser.