PLEASE LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND PLEASE HELP

[J_J]

The $100 block that Sawdustsmb stated might be the best way to go for safety reasons, and that being the pressure through each of the valves ports.

I am curious about the PB on the adapter plate, if that is what he meant. Is that port pressure IN or pressure OUT?

If in fact the adapter provides pressure to the new valve, and then the new valve PB out from new loader valve returns to the adapter plate IN for the 3pt, and the return from the new loader valve is sent to tank. Then all is well.

The current valve could be used for T-N-T or any hyd function.

 

[ArcticFord]

This valve assey is a standard Ford # E2NNB950DA. Some LP cab had modified levelers go right, nearly out to the fender. Then there was mounted 2 leveler upprigth. With this levelers you could operate the valv assy in an ok way. Did not need to bend down to reach leveler. LP cab was mounted on Fords fram Basildon Plant.
As far as I can see the only "problem" with the solution on the picture is "a lot of" hydraulic hoses. And an uncomfortable sitution handeling the levelers.

 

[sweettractors]

Could you put extensions on the existing levers to get them in a more comfortable location for you. We have done that on something used for the farm. Ken Sweet

 

[duke7595]

Hello,
So what would you recommend to get this thing in the right place like most are mounted ?

 

[duke7595]

I hate to keep bothering you guys but I can't make head nor tales of what you are talking about.

Can I just run a hoses or hoses to a another joy stick or the reg, 2 stick control type and mount it where
it should be.?

 

[PoorPlowboy]

I hate to keep bothering you guys but I can't make head nor tales of what you are talking about.

Can I just run a hoses or hoses to a another joy stick or the reg, 2 stick control type and mount it where
it should be.?

Yes, as long as you buy and install the Power Beyond manifold that was mentioned earlier.

 

[Sawdustsmb]

J J That is exactly how it works. the pressure that normally goes to the hydraulic control under seat control is diverted to what ever type of loader control and returns to the manifold to power the underseat hydraulic control. And apparently the 3 pth. the return from the loader control is returned to the fill plug which I am going to drill and tap for either 1/2" pipe or 8 sae (3/4") adaptor.

Bob

 

[Sawdustsmb]

Duke - you have choices
1. Get whatever loader control you want and mount it where ever you feel you like it.
2. Choice 1 - Run 2 hoses from the rear hydraulic connectors to the new loader valve in and out. Connect your loader hoses to the new loader control valve. Now tie the lever on the underseat hydraulic control you have connected to it's hoses in the on position. the loader will work - the 3pth will not.

3. Choice 2 - buy and place the manifold under the underseat hydraulic control. Run 2 hoses from the manifold to the new loader control and one from the new loader control to the fill rear end fill plug behind the seat. follow instructions and diagrams given. All functions will work.

4. Choice 3 - Take it to someone who can do it for you.

Bob

 

[duke7595]

Sawdustsmb

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I this the type of valve that you speak of ?

Bob, thank you very much for your help

 

[Sawdustsmb]

From the description on ebay, Yes that with the included Open,closed, power beyond plug that is included should work fine.
Bob

 

[Soundguy]

I think he means that it is a awkward set up as far as operating it. Reaching down to control the loader that is.

Is there a way that you can mount the valve to the fender or fab some type of mount?

NO that ford top cover valve has to mount to the hyd cover.


I'm with JJ.. that's a pretty STANDARD setup on a ford.

I have laoders setup that way as well...

the op has 2 or 3 options.


1, get a power beyond plate and sandwich under the tisco/oe style valve.. run the power out to an OC joystick or other loader valve bank somewhere else, then dump back to the valve, and keep the 2 spool for rear remotes ( cost about 100$ for the block, plus 15$ for orings.. plus? ??couple hundred for the joystick, and another 100$ in hoses. )

2, use 1 spool on that oe valve to run a joystick.. will have to detent that valve powered.. or bunji cord it back. ( cost a lil less than option one due to no PB block )

3, add a front mount pump, and valve and resvoir.. cost = HIGH


i must have at least 3 loaders if not more plumbed like this.... using a ford top cover valve...

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Hello,
So what would you recommend to get this thing in the right place like most are mounted ?

it's in the right place. it's on the hyd top cover.. just like it was manufactured for.

you can pay money and buy more plumbing and more valves and put ANOTHER valve anwwhere you like it.... how fast is your wallet?

 

[duke7595]

Thanks again Bob, you are a fine gentleman to stick with me and explain all this information.

 

[duke7595]

Soundguy ,

Thank you for your information it is appreciated.
DUKE

 

[ETpilot]

duke7595,

I had a FEL, Ford 4610, setup similar to yours but with a joystick loader valve. I had 2 long loader hoses that I would connect to my tractor rear connection ports and then I had to tie my tractor valve so the FEL valve would work. I then lost the 3PH. I had this setup for a while until I got tired of it. I finally purchased that manifold 9613790 and connected my loader valve to it. So much better and the 3PH works simultaneous. I made my connection with a pressure and a return but no power beyond return.

When I remove the loader, I use a short hose that I had fabricated, to connect the pressure and return ports while the loader is off. Works good for me.

Post or PM me your email and I will send you the manifold installation instructions and a couple of pictures of my setup for ideas for your setup.