Thank you JeepNFord. That was the answer I was looking for. I have been doing some research of the cylinders on the plow frame and found they are SA and work as you describe. Thank you.!
Snow plow adapted to the FEL
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foggy1111
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I recently did a plow build and bought new cylinders for mine. Not sure if this was mentioned previously (I didnt read the whole thread) but, many folks recommend a "CROSSOVER RELIEF VALVE" to be plumbed into your set up. This valve will divert oil from one side to the other if you hit something with the lead edge (corner) of the snow blade. I think its a good idea if you plow around lots of curbs and such. In my case I have tree roots and stumps along my trails.
This pic shows the valve and where I mounted mine. The surplus center has them for about $80 IIRC.
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dtd24
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Man 4shorts that is a kick ***** build. Gives me some inspiration. I will be making a build thread I hope you chime in on. Awesome!!
seacap04
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there is some awesome info in this tread. I built one out of an old 7' Fisher plow with info from this thread. Best question to ask, what would you do different.
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4shorts
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Thank you very much. Love it when folks say my work has inspired them. I'd enjoy seeing your build thread. Get to it. Snow is on the way :thumbsup:
Glad you got something out of the thread. That's just great.
Hum. Good question. The first thing I'd do is focus the picture :laughing:
Ah. Just kidding.You should attach a few more different angles but from what I can see you did a nice job. I like the fact that your blade is back close to your FEL :thumbsup:
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varmint
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Just discovered this thread, and some of the fine stories contained in it, like this one:
When I first started out as a mechanic I befriended the meanest, grumpiest old sob in the shop. Somehow he took a liking to my attention to detail and asking for help if I did not understand or was not completely sure of a project. Well anyway as it turned out he was a master machinist, tool and die maker. His position in the shop was no way commensurate with his training or talent he had just found a place rebuilding sub assemblies that worked for him. As the years went by he shared a lot of knowledge with me that he would not share with others in the shop. He would often stray over to my job and offer suggestions etc. When I had a machinist question he was always willing to offer not only a solution but the why and how and hands on help. I had become his apprentice. One day out of the blue he comes to me and says ,give me a hundred bucks, puzzled I told him I would see him on payday. Well when payday came he escorted me out the parking lot to his car, opened the trunk and gave me several thousand dollars of machinists? tools. All old school, no digital, but well worth the money. The tools included handmade micrometers, height gauges, depth gauges, vices, angle blocks, sine bars you name it, enough to start a small shop. His reasoning was that his son in law would only use the stuff as hammers or pry bars. For years after I would occasionally find another tool on my box with his initials engraved on them, he would just find another thing he did not want or need and pass it on. He is gone now but I strive to pass on what I can.
When my son was younger in his early teens and we would be working on a project I would often try to explain the whole process as we went along, much like my friend had. Well as with all kids his age he was in a hurry to see the finished product and not too interested in just how to get it done. I love his most famous quote when he asked how do something, dad I don't need the twelve page explanation. Since he has gotten older, he is in his twenties now; I have gotten a whole lot smarter! Now we are at least up to the six page answer.
Well what's my point? I it is people like my old friend, 4shorts and others on TBN that are willing to share their collective knowledge, talents and ideas that further our knowledge and understanding. Trying to stifle these posts in any way hurts us all. 4shorts keep it coming! I for one respect the talent shared for no other reason but to help and inform others. None of us are too old to learn. Thanks for your generosity.
I always enjoy Paul's (4Shorts) projects, and whenever I start something, I try to think "how would Paul do it" before I have to do something twice to get it halfway right. When I was a young guy, I had the luck to exposed to a German precision machinist who'd been apprenticed at Mercedes before the war, and came over here in the 50's to work as a university instrument maker. He showed me how to brew coffee with a paper filter, and some basic machining things. What I really remember was his stories about fighting on the Russian front, in the birch woods with his dog, wearing the white snow suits and trying to sneak around. I still have, and value, the single flute Morse countersinks he gave me since he "didn't need so many sets..."
When I first started out as a mechanic I befriended the meanest, grumpiest old sob in the shop. Somehow he took a liking to my attention to detail and asking for help if I did not understand or was not completely sure of a project. Well anyway as it turned out he was a master machinist, tool and die maker. His position in the shop was no way commensurate with his training or talent he had just found a place rebuilding sub assemblies that worked for him. As the years went by he shared a lot of knowledge with me that he would not share with others in the shop. He would often stray over to my job and offer suggestions etc. When I had a machinist question he was always willing to offer not only a solution but the why and how and hands on help. I had become his apprentice. One day out of the blue he comes to me and says ,give me a hundred bucks, puzzled I told him I would see him on payday. Well when payday came he escorted me out the parking lot to his car, opened the trunk and gave me several thousand dollars of machinists? tools. All old school, no digital, but well worth the money. The tools included handmade micrometers, height gauges, depth gauges, vices, angle blocks, sine bars you name it, enough to start a small shop. His reasoning was that his son in law would only use the stuff as hammers or pry bars. For years after I would occasionally find another tool on my box with his initials engraved on them, he would just find another thing he did not want or need and pass it on. He is gone now but I strive to pass on what I can.
When my son was younger in his early teens and we would be working on a project I would often try to explain the whole process as we went along, much like my friend had. Well as with all kids his age he was in a hurry to see the finished product and not too interested in just how to get it done. I love his most famous quote when he asked how do something, dad I don't need the twelve page explanation. Since he has gotten older, he is in his twenties now; I have gotten a whole lot smarter! Now we are at least up to the six page answer.
Well what's my point? I it is people like my old friend, 4shorts and others on TBN that are willing to share their collective knowledge, talents and ideas that further our knowledge and understanding. Trying to stifle these posts in any way hurts us all. 4shorts keep it coming! I for one respect the talent shared for no other reason but to help and inform others. None of us are too old to learn. Thanks for your generosity.
I always enjoy Paul's (4Shorts) projects, and whenever I start something, I try to think "how would Paul do it" before I have to do something twice to get it halfway right. When I was a young guy, I had the luck to exposed to a German precision machinist who'd been apprenticed at Mercedes before the war, and came over here in the 50's to work as a university instrument maker. He showed me how to brew coffee with a paper filter, and some basic machining things. What I really remember was his stories about fighting on the Russian front, in the birch woods with his dog, wearing the white snow suits and trying to sneak around. I still have, and value, the single flute Morse countersinks he gave me since he "didn't need so many sets..."
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4shorts
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Man I enjoyed this. You had the opportunity of a lifetime to work with an exceptional tradesman and you took it and learned greatly from it. With computers, CNC and automation I feel the hands on tradesmen are slowing becoming a thing of the past and its disappointing.
When I worked as a heavy equipment operator many years ago I would hang out in the service repair shop and there was an old French mechanic. Man no one liked him and to tell the truth I had to dig deep to find one of his good points BUT he was exceptional at his work. When I wasn't operating I would go over the the repair shop and grab a broom and clean up around his work area. Did that for weeks. The other operators would stay over in their trailer playing cards until the next job came in but I just wanted to do something so I hug our over in the shop with this mean old guy.
They had about 20 guys working in the shop but the old guy did the best work. After a few weeks he started to ask me to help him ( in broken English). Next thing he was getting me to lap valves. I did that for days on end and my hands had blisters on them but I was learning and i never complained. It got to the point that the old guy would ask for me when I was out operating so I knew I won him over. It was good times back then. Hard but good if that makes any sense.
Varmint I appreciate your kind words. Really do and I appreciate your story and your very kind remarks. My dad was pretty well good at everything he put his mind to. I've heard people call him a Craftsman and I'd have to agree. No matter what he did it was done to perfection. He passed away 30 years ago but I still miss him every day. Every time I'm doing something such as restoring, fabricating.... I'll always ask myself " wonder if dad would like the way I did this"? That's my motivation when I'm doing something. It works for me.
varmint
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I gotta quit praising Paul, or readers will begin wonder about me... but his little recurring statement "...Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude.." really doesn't say it all- not only does his work show quality attitude, but excellence in its execution.
mjncad
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Count me in as a Paul fan!
