Lawsuit - immigrants families sue trailer co

[Pitch1]

So you knowingly break the law to save a buck,that's mighty American of you isn't it. I have heard it all and it is all BS. !4.50 per hour is good money in the Finger Lakes.
Funny thing is I read most of the local papers,FL Times, Democrat and ChroniclePost Standard,Corning Leader and never once have I seen an ad looking for Seasonal Vineyard help. Please if either of you have ever run such an ad please post a link to it.
I guessing pretty much the way it works is an agent contacts you and offers a crew you say ok pay the comission and turn your back. As long as the work gets done and your equioment isn't torn up all is good.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I've never posted a help wanted ad because I've never needed to. With our construction company we have US citizens constantly walking on to jobsites looking for work. With the farms I have had friends and other people I know ask about working only to never show up when I accept their offer. The seasonal workers come to the farms looking for work. Never had an US citizen show up on the farm asking for work like they do on our construction sites.

And how am I knowingly breaking the law? The guys I hire all have the proper paperwork. The last guys did as well but he didn't always have the same guys and we had no control over that. So that is why we switched to someone different this year.

Also, I have never seen an ad online or in any of the farm stores for someone looking to work in a vineyard seasonally. I see people looking for jobs at horse farms, dairy farms and big row crop farms but never seasonal field work. Have you? With all the hate against the migrants who do want to work you would think there would be people jumping up offering to work in their place. Instead all anyone does is complain about them but never volunteer to do their work.

Would you like to work in the vineyards? I'm sure you can find work locally if you actually tried to. In fact in should be easy as almost every farm operation could use help spring through fall.

 

[joe t]

I agree with Robert, make the work Visas easier. If we did that they will quit illegally invading us.


My concrete guy was talking to his backhoe operator in spanish yesterday and was like "we need to get this prep done by the 21st" and the worker said "why" and his boss said "because it is the end of the world that day" and the worker looked suprised and said "so no more work?". Hahaha, true story.

So you knowingly break the law to save a buck,that's mighty American of you isn't it. I have heard it all and it is all BS. !4.50 per hour is good money in the Finger Lakes.
Funny thing is I read most of the local papers,FL Times, Democrat and ChroniclePost Standard,Corning Leader and never once have I seen an ad looking for Seasonal Vineyard help. Please if either of you have ever run such an ad please post a link to it.
I guessing pretty much the way it works is an agent contacts you and offers a crew you say ok pay the comission and turn your back. As long as the work gets done and your equioment isn't torn up all is good.

Dude straight up, that is the hugest misconception about pay. Seriously no matter the race or legal status of the worker they demand the same wages. If you don't pay someone correct they won't do a correct job.


Benefit, illegal worker because they probably aren't paying taxes.


Disadvantage you, keep saying this stuff (hopefully not because your racist) and the problem will persist.

 

[aczlan]

Dude straight up, that is the hugest misconception about pay. Seriously no matter the race or legal status of the worker they demand the same wages. If you don't pay someone correct they won't do a correct job.
Benefit, illegal worker because they probably aren't paying taxes.
Disadvantage you, keep saying this stuff (hopefully not because your racist) and the problem will persist.

Ayep. My wife used to work for a dairy and the ONLY guys who they could get to CONSISTENTLY do the milking were Mexicans who lived on site. They tried various people, but they would show up drunk, drugged, stupid, etc if they showed up at all.
They were paying ~$10/hr (depending on how good you were) with medical benefits to milk cows and clean out the barn. Most weeks were at least 40 hours, 6-8 guys split between 2 shifts (5AM to Noon and ~4PM to 11PM 6 days a week.
Were they legal? Probably not very, but they had papers saying that they were which is all that an employer can legally ask for.

Aaron Z