Ruger P95 Thoughts??

[Tororider]

The nice thing about the compact m&p's is that you can use the full size magazines in them. Gives you options. I think the flocks are the same. I don't mind glocks, the m&p just felt better in my hand.

 

[whistlepig]

Everyone has their likes and dislikes. As a trained PO I would not make a habit of carrying a gun in my pocket in the first place. To worrry about snagging a hammer on clothing is a bit moot when you bought a gun intending to carry it in a pocket. That action alone makes for an accidental discharge. More than one Police officer has shot himself trying to get a gun out of a front or back pocket. But, that having been said, thousands of guys will carry a gun that way for convenience. the same goes for .380, .32 cal, or 22 cal guns. They are good for scare tactics but if you have to shoot someone, you dont really want him to be able to shoot after he is shot. That is why cops carry 9mm,40cal, or larger. You need a holster but any of the small "plastic" autos will serve for self defense. Cops are trained not to use pistols with safeties because more than one cop has been killed when in a shoot out because in the excitement, didnt get his weapon to fire due to forgetting to take the safety off.
They use weapons that do not have magazine disconnects because even with one bullet left in the chamber, those weapons wont fire until a magazine is put back into the gun. Little things but time has shown men die because of those little things. I am just telling you what the Secret Service and FBI training says from the experiences gathered throughout the country over decades of time.
It is true that many times you will not want to bother carrying a good weapon in a holster esp. in summer. Those are times when even a Sat. night special 22 cal in a pocket is better than nothing.
Personally, I am superstitious. Due to bad experiences, I feel the one time I carry a little 22, I will walk into a holdup and wish like heqq that I had a real gun with me.
No offense to anyone . We all do what we want in the end and make our own choices for our reasons. Money being the number one reason. By the way, don't ever use +P ammo in a lightweight or airweight .38. I did that once and the round I fired cracked the shell all the way back. It was luck that the cylinder didnt shatter. Live and learn!

My S&W Airweight doesn't have a hammer. It is not rated for P+ loads.

 

[techwrtr2]

I have an old P85. Clunky, the sights suck, the safety is so bloody stiff that I don't use it other than as a de-cocker. Having said that, it goes bang every time and eats pretty much every 9mm you feed it. Even crappy reloads that aren't sized properly seemed to feed ok. I don't CCW it due to size.

For that purpose I carry either a G27 or an LCP depending on where I'm going and how I'm dressed. I prefer the capcity of my G27 but the size is a detraction. It's a small Glock, but still a little large for me to CCW as I"m not comfortable with most IWB holsters I've tried (not many however). LCB fits nicely in a pocket holster and is frequently my carry choice for that reason.

 

[Clyde the Pointer]

Personally I think there are a lot of better guns available than this Ruger. However it's a hi cap model and in this political climate that's hard to criticize. For me they are basically functional and ugly like a Glock. Sure it works but jeezus who designed that thing. 1911's are timeless.

 

[Ken45101]

Personally I think there are a lot of better guns available than this Ruger. ..... 1911's are timeless.

Yes, but the Ruger P series is a LOT more reliable than 1911s. I had a KP-89 and a P-90. They went bang every time I pulled the trigger. That's more than I can say for my 1911s (which cost a heck of a lot more than the Rugers.)

 

[TripleR]

By the way, don't ever use +P ammo in a lightweight or airweight .38. I did that once and the round I fired cracked the shell all the way back. It was luck that the cylinder didnt shatter. Live and learn!

Many of our Officers had S&W .38 Airweight and had to qualify with our duty ammo which in the .38 +P, never heard of any cracked cases or other failures. Older Airweights were not +P rated, but newer ones are. My retirement gun is a S&W 638; no intent to start an argument.

Product: Model 638

 

[RDrancher]

Many of our Officers had S&W .38 Airweight and had to qualify with our duty ammo which in the .38 +P, never heard of any cracked cases or other failures. Older Airweights were not +P rated, but newer ones are. My retirement gun is a S&W 638; no intent to start an argument.

I don't want to start an argument here either. I haven't heard of problems shooting +P loads in Airweights rated for +P, but that's not to say someone hasn't had them. My pre-lock 642-1 is +P rated and I've put a bunch through it, but I've settled on Buffalo Bore standard pressure rounds. I'm faster on followup shots.

 

[murphy1244]

I don't want to start an argument here either. I haven't heard of problems shooting +P loads in Airweights rated for +P, but that's not to say someone hasn't had them. My pre-lock 642-1 is +P rated and I've put a bunch through it, but I've settled on Buffalo Bore standard pressure rounds. I'm faster on followup shots.

Maybe he was talking about unrated guns.

 

[TripleR]

I don't want to start an argument here either. I haven't heard of problems shooting +P loads in Airweights rated for +P, but that's not to say someone hasn't had them. My pre-lock 642-1 is +P rated and I've put a bunch through it, but I've settled on Buffalo Bore standard pressure rounds. I'm faster on followup shots.

My only point was that I don't think it is prudent or proper to make a blanket statement like don't shoot +P in an Airweight when it is common practice in many situations. There are reported incidents of a KB with Glocks shooting reloads and even factory ammo, my son had one with his new G22 department issued G22, but no one states Glocks are unsafe to shoot.

I had to use +P so long, I haven't done a lot of experimenting. I really don't notice much difference in my cast reloads than my +P; I just may not be very good with either.

Maybe he was talking about unrated guns.

That may very well be the case and if so I agree and I again, I don't mean to sound harsh or criticize anyone, just offer another opinion or perspective, if I have come across that way, I apologize to all I have offended.

 

[murphy1244]

I would not shoot+P in any gun not rated for it nor should anybody.