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[TCBoomer]

Maybe others have had different experiences, but I've noticed it doesn't take much of a load to kick the generator up off of idle. When I am using the generator to run the house, there is almost always something drawing power, enough to bring it off idle--even though it isn't working hard at all. I probably have enough vampire loads to keep it from going to idle.

I only have a 6 circuit xfer switch...boiler/hot water is indirect fired storage, fridge, well pump and 2 rooms-kitch and great room for lights and outlets. Extension cord for any misc like TV or DSL that we might need. Suits the needs for both of us. During daylight hours I've noticed it idle down sometimes because of no power demand.

 

[TCBoomer]

The Honda system is different then idle control. My generac has idle control, ANY DRAW, kicks it out, that is normal. The Honda Eco Throttle adjusts the Rpms to match load. My EU 6500 varies from 2800 to 3500 Rpms.

The EM6500 is also a very good generator. The only reason I stepped up to the EU is for low draw fuel efficiency. I had a problem getting gas last October storm and have a wood boiler that requires a low power draw to run. Again, the EM 6500 is also an awesome generator and nearly as efficient at full down to half load. The EU excels below that. Get it !

A 700 rpm difference? Wow...Bet you hardly notice that small of change with the EU series. I'm confident the EM series will suit me fine based on our needs and I sure as heck can't justify the xtra $$ to step up to the EU. If I was to spend that much, no doubt I'd get a permanent standby generator.

That EU6500 that you have is one FINE peace of equipment!! I got to play with one at the dealer

 

[TCBoomer]

Northern tool sells them:
NorthStar PTO Generator 7200 Watt, 14 HP Required | PTO Generators| Northern Tool + Equipment

Messicks sells a package deal on a trailer & the powerhead is AVR regulated. You don't really need a trailer, just a 3 point carry all type set up works fine:
Tiger Power PTO Generators

I have a Winco 24KW. My 40 horse tractor runs it to capacity @ 2,000rpm which equates to a gallon an hr. But keep in mind this will run the whole house...everything. Most folks don't run a generator 24/7 and any time I have had to use one for a week or so I run it about 8 hrs a day. I have a 300 gallon diesel tank, so re-fueling is not a big deal. A tractor is designed to run long hard hours day after day. Heck it takes tons more abuse when cutting, teddering. raking and baling hay.

I have a small 3600 Boily Pro that I use for camping & small jobs on the farm. It's a very well done knock off of the Yamaha but for less than half the price.
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I think Honda makes the best portable generator on the market so I don't think you can go wrong with one. Keep in mind that if the insidious ETHANOL makes it's way into any small engine carb, then sits for over a month or two it's going to rein havoc. I recommend Marine Stabil on all small engines or ethanol free fuel which is getting harder to find in some states.

Thanks for the links! I had already seen the Northstar unit but didn't know how reliable it was. I just went to messicks as I'm a customer and their site says their still out of stock, so I'll have to call. No idea of price though.

The Northstar is only 1K and easy enough for me to build a carry all for it. Just have to buy a drive shaft. $1K is alot easier to write a check for than 3K so I'm giving serious thought to going this route now. I'll compare specs and prices with messicks and see how they compare.

You or anyone else have any pros/cons about the Northstar PTO generators? Google has some good reviews from what I've seen.

eta...Wow those Wincos are some serious units, more than what I need. Bet they'd run my tractor instead of my tractor running it

 

[TCBoomer]

TCBoomer, are you planning on using the generator for emergencies only? At almost $3,000 I'd definitely look into a standby unit.

yes mainly emergency and 8KW +/- would satisfy my needs.

Standby would be nice but I just don't have the time to add another project to my growing list.

 

[kenmac]

On the northern units. I would ask where the generator is made. I have a northstar pressure washer with honda engine,but the pump is made in Italy. I don't know it that's good or bad

 

[dave1949]

I only have a 6 circuit xfer switch...boiler/hot water is indirect fired storage, fridge, well pump and 2 rooms-kitch and great room for lights and outlets. Extension cord for any misc like TV or DSL that we might need. Suits the needs for both of us. During daylight hours I've noticed it idle down sometimes because of no power demand.

I use the main service panel lock-out method, so when my generator is connected, all circuits are powered. My generator model is an EB 6500, about 14 years old now.
No doubt there have been changes. :laughing:

 

[Brad_Blazer]

If it's going to run a lot, you may want to look at a diesel. They use MUCH less fuel. DP6500RDS, Diesel Generator for Sale, Silent Diesel Generators
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NorthStar Generator 10 HP, 6500 Surge Watts, 6120 Rated Watts, Diesel, Model# 165930 | Portable Generators| Northern Tool + Equipment
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If you really want a Honda engine. NorthStar Generator 10,000 Surge Watts, 8500 Rated Watts, Electric Start | Portable Generators| Northern Tool + Equipment
The generator head on that one is made in Italy.

 

[jhasafety1]

I would contact the state attorney general, this runs along the lines of price gouging during a disaster.

 

[Scooby074]

Firstly, Honda makes the best generators and small engines period ( we have 5 of various horsepower)! We have an EU6500is generator. Its been flawless for going on 10 years? now. Just start it about once a week to keep the TREATED fuel moving through it and the battery charged. Eco throttle is great for fuel savings. I plan on building an automatic exercising system for it so it will self exercise and keep the battery charged and the fuel fresh.

If Honda was out, Subaru engines would be #2. I have a 14hp on my splitter, and while it is a very good engine, it pales to Honda. Honda is just that much better. I should have spent the extra $ 200 for the Honda.

As to the dealer, I think you have grounds.. a contract is a contract. But do you want to go down that road? You could go to small claims I suppose, but all future dealings will be tainted for sure.

As to the Generiacs... My neighbour has gone through 2 over about 5 years. Between that and internet searches (including TBN) Ive seen a bunch of horror stories.. Id never own one.

Have you seen the Honda branded (made by APC) Automatic Transfer switches? http://powerequipment.honda.com/pdf/Brochures/HP2S_Brochure.pdf

My advise, your not making a mistake wanting a Honda, find another dealer and use whatever financing they are offering. Yes the crappy dealer "wins" but it is what it is.

 

[kenmac]

I have a Generac 5500 watt portable that I have owned for about 10 yrs. Never a problem.