Buying Advice New B3350

[rrostvet]

Waiting to pull the trigger on ordering a B3000 cab. Heard that there is a new B3350 cab in the works? Any suggestion on wait or buy now?

 

[94BULLITT]

It will have all the emissions junk on it. I don't know if that bothers you. It will be more money than a B3000. Kubota site says the B50 sereis will be out in the Spring.

 

[ericdube]

Besides the tier 4 engine, there's actually quite a bit of improvements on the B3350 over the previous model. You might want to check out the Kubota Canada site as they provide a lot of detailed information on the new B3350. There's even a lower horsepower B2650 version as well.

 

[rrostvet]

Thanks for the link to the Canada site. Looks like a lot of extra cash for modest gains in creature comfort and a few HP. I though the B3000 was pricey. Unless there is something I am not seeing, can't see the extra cost.

 

[CHDinCT]

Thanks for the link to the Canada site. Looks like a lot of extra cash for modest gains in creature comfort and a few HP. I though the B3000 was pricey. Unless there is something I am not seeing, can't see the extra cost.

I'm sure that is Canadian pricing so I would not assume it will retail for the same here in the States. Pricing here is usually lower, based on all the comments of our northern neighbors I've seen posted here over the years.

 

[kuboman]

Teir 4 is the extra cost.

 

[94BULLITT]

I heard that on a tractor that size that tier IV would add $3000.

 

[bandit67]

Waiting to pull the trigger on ordering a B3000 cab. Heard that there is a new B3350 cab in the works? Any suggestion on wait or buy now?

If you can actually still order a B3000, you won't be able to for very long. I snagged one in November, and it seemed like a lot of dealers that had them were looking to move them out of inventory before they got their B3350's in. I would assume it is related to the big price increase.

I personally didn't want the Tier 4 - bad enough I have to deal with the new EPA stuff on my diesel pickup. The extra power is to address the power-robbing emissions equipment on the new motors, and the hood vent is to let out the extra heat created from the emissions stuff on the new motors that was supposedly melting the non vented hoods. I also didn't think the added bells & whistles were worth the extra cost.

Since I was almost perfectly happy with my B3030, but wanted a cab, I decided that virtually the exact same machine with a cab, in the B3000, was going to be the perfect machine for me. I do like the upgrades that I got in the BH77 vs the older BH75. I also am not a huge fan of all the new electronics in the dash of my diesel pickup, because although they add a lot of creature comforts, I am worried about the costs of replacing/repair when they crap out after warranty. I really didn't want to deal with more computer crap on my tractor that I expect I will keep for decades.

But if you wait long enough, you won't have to choose.

 

[rrostvet]

bandit thanks for the info, you sound like my kind of guy,(not a teckno neek) the only though I had was that the new cab would be a lot quieter, heard B3000 was very noisey. Is yours tolerable without muffs?

 

[bandit67]

You don't need earmuffs inside the cab of the B3000. I suspect it's the same or possibly just a bit quieter than the B3030 cab. However, I am probably going to play with some additional sound absorption material this summer, and will post my results at that time. The B3000 hydro noise is essentially the same as my B3030 open station, but the cab holds more of the noise in. Obviously, the bigger machines can add a lot more sound deadening/sound proofing, and have a slightly different mounting system that helps isolate the cab better, which is the direction that Kubota has gone with the B3350, but it comes down to how much hydro noise comes up through the sheet metal floor. I've noticed that the bigger machines have very little exposed sheet metal inside the cab, whereas the B3000/B3030 has quite a bit exposed.

The engine noise is certainly quieter than on the open station machine, and I can barely hear the rear pto when I run the snowblower. All of the objectionable noise comes from the hydro transmission, which is right underneath the majority of the cab.

The biggest complaint I've heard is the hydro whine inside the cab tends to drone out the stereo at lower volumes. Currently, I use my machine without headphones, and with my iPhone & earphones when I want to listen to music or the radio. I wanted to see what the noise issue was prior to buying an in-cab stereo, but now that I've put 30 hours on the machine, I have plans to add a stereo as I don't feel the in-cab noise is too much for a stereo to reasonably deal with.


I suspect, after looking at what Kubota did to help with sound deadening, that I can do a little better with some of the available aftermarket products. When I get around to tackling that task come warmer weather, I will be sure to take video, with sound, of before & after inside the cab, along with detailed pictures of what modifications I make. That way, if it works out the way I hope, I can provide all the information folks need to make the modifications. I don't have a decibel meter, but if I can get my hands on a cheap one or borrow one, then I'll take those before & after readings also.

The in-cab noise certainly doesn't have me wishing I held out for the more expensive, Tier $$$, oh, excuse me, Tier 4, B3350.

Oh, and I love technology, just don't like it everywhere, and hate when it fails and makes things completely useless.

 

[jim_wilson]

If you can actually still order a B3000, you won't be able to for very long. I snagged one in November, and it seemed like a lot of dealers that had them were looking to move them out of inventory before they got their B3350's in. I would assume it is related to the big price increase.

I personally didn't want the Tier 4 - bad enough I have to deal with the new EPA stuff on my diesel pickup. The extra power is to address the power-robbing emissions equipment on the new motors, and the hood vent is to let out the extra heat created from the emissions stuff on the new motors that was supposedly melting the non vented hoods. I also didn't think the added bells & whistles were worth the extra cost.

Since I was almost perfectly happy with my B3030, but wanted a cab, I decided that virtually the exact same machine with a cab, in the B3000, was going to be the perfect machine for me. I do like the upgrades that I got in the BH77 vs the older BH75. I also am not a huge fan of all the new electronics in the dash of my diesel pickup, because although they add a lot of creature comforts, I am worried about the costs of replacing/repair when they crap out after warranty. I really didn't want to deal with more computer crap on my tractor that I expect I will keep for decades.

But if you wait long enough, you won't have to choose.

Does anybody know when these are supposed to be hitting the dealers?

I'm not in the market for a new tractor - but I am very curious to get a look at one because I'd like to see if the new quick attach setup is retrofittable to my B3200's LA504 loader.

What is Kubota's definition of "spring" ??

 

[WaxMan]

I have waited for a while now to see what the new B3050 looks like, but like Bandit I don't think the difference is worth the trade. Larger Glass doors? (I like to be able to open the side windows in the back when plowing snow) I like the new view from the cab less restrictions looking out the windshield. I don't like the washer fluid outside the cab. Looks like it is unfinished and out of place back there. I mean really, do you want that on the outside in the back right there? Look at it? I have never refilled my washer fluid since the first time 5 years ago. One more thing for the mud to collect on. Put it under the hood where it belongs.

They don't mention anything about the noise/dust in the cab, that tells me it's still noisy. I would think mentioning how quiet the new cab is would be a big selling point especially since it's replacing the older models and not competing with them.
I do like the new style loader arms.

In this video it looks like an old Chinese junk with that roof sticking out. No style, They rounded the cab but left the roof square and sticking out , in some angles it looks like a flat canopy top. I wished it would look more like the L cab. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet. Maybe I'm overreacting about the look, but something just doesn't look right in this video. The only reason I would even consider buying this over mine is if the Noise and Dust level was night and day difference. Not to mention the price, add a loader and backhoe Wow, I guess the value of mine just went up. Buying the first generation EPA stuff scares me a little. Maybe seeing it in person I might have a different opinion. I expected more then I see so far.

New B50 Series - YouTube

 

[bandit67]

I like to be able to open the side windows in the back when plowing snow

That's something that Kubota missed the boat on when attempting to save money on the B3000. They deleted the venting feature on the side windows - definitely not happy about that, so if it's isn't ungodly expensive, I may end up trying to replace my setup with the B3030 setup at some point.

 

[WaxMan]

That's something that Kubota missed the boat on when attempting to save money on the B3000. They deleted the venting feature on the side windows - definitely not happy about that, so if it's isn't ungodly expensive, I may end up trying to replace my setup with the B3030 setup at some point.

Really I did not realize that, what else is different between the 3000 and the 3030 cab, any improvements that I can add to the 3030?

 

[bandit67]

I don't think there are really any improvements, but am not sure since I never spent any time in a B3030 cab. I haven't had any real dust issues, and spent some time in late fall doing a bunch of dusty dirtwork & backhoe work. The entire backhoe was covered with our fine dust that we get when things get really dry, and none of it made it into the cab. All of the levers have plastic seals on them. Not completely airtight, but seem to be doing the job so far.

 

[WaxMan]

If this was 4 inches less in height, I just might say goodbye to my Kubota, You can see Kubota was copying the John Deere cab, the glass anyway, this is a quiet cab and very nice inside.
Just can fit in my garage.

 

[bandit67]

If I were to go bigger, I'd stick with the Grand L for about the same money. Those cabs are luxurious & quiet, for the girly men.

 

[WaxMan]

If I were to go bigger, I'd stick with the Grand L for about the same money. Those cabs are luxurious & quiet, for the girly men.

Why did you get rid of your B3030 FOR A B3000 ? Two many hours or did something happen to it?

 

[bandit67]

Got the girly man virus every winter and wanted a cab. When I wasn't being a girly man, the B3030 was great.

 

[WaxMan]

Got the girly man virus every winter and wanted a cab. When I wasn't being a girly man, the B3030 was great.

Ok now I remember, you used to be a man's man. When you have a cab, it's like your own little world in there isn't it, especially in a blinding snow storm:thumbsup: These days it's ok to be a girly man year round not that I have anything against a real Man's man covered in snow , but a cab is a nicer, warmer, (cooler), drier way to go.