Is the verdict in on the "new" Boomers vs. the TC's?

[MiserableOldFart]

Wondering if the new Boomers are as reliable and well made as the ones from a few years ago. I have a TC26DA and am thinking about trading up to a slightly larger machine, mainly for bigger loader. Very happy with the TC26DA though and don't want to make any very expensive mistakes. Looking around, I see that the Kubotas don't really give you much more loader when you go to a 30 or 35 hp tractor, but the New Hollands apparently do, if Tractordata is right. Also looking at MF and Bobcat, but think I'd rather stay blue if all else is right.

The only negative about the TC26 DA is the oft-mentioned boner of putting the HST pedal and the brake pedals on the same side of the tractor, though I have been considering making some kind of lever attachment to work the HST pedal so my foot could use the steering brakes, but the motivation for actually doing it hasn't come forward, lol. So, I just keep the brake pedals locked.

 

[Complete Turf Care]

I have a 2006 TC45A that I really like. It has about 1300 hours on it, and I'm considering trading it. When I went to the dealer, he steered me towards a Mahindra 5010. He said the new Boomers are not made in the same country and are 'not the same tractor' as the older ones.

If I do trade, I will go with a Mahindra 5035, and I will not go back with a New Holland.

 

[ozley]

I have a 2006 TC45A that I really like. It has about 1300 hours on it, and I'm considering trading it. When I went to the dealer, he steered me towards a Mahindra 5010. He said the new Boomers are not made in the same country and are 'not the same tractor' as the older ones.

If I do trade, I will go with a Mahindra 5035, and I will not go back with a New Holland.

The new Boomers are made by LS.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/ls-tractors/

 

[RickB]

We have sold a few of the new Boomers made by LS. They certainly are not as popular or as sought after as the Shibaura-built TC's. But from a parts man's standpoint we have sold exactly zero safety switches, relays, ignition switches and glowplug controllers and things of that nature for the LS Boomers.

 

[FredH]

What Size or Serial number is your current Loader ? Have a TC 30 with the 7308 loader on it , so just curious ???



Rick : Are parts cheaper for the LS series Boomer than the older TC's like mine a 2003 TC 30 ????



Fred H

 

[Morroder]

The new 30xx super suite II series are the old motors. Not LS. If you are looking for a cab I would look hard at these. I almost bought a Kioti but the new 3040 arrived the day I showed up to sign papers on DK40 cab. No contest outside of loader. Love the CVT

 

[RickB]

What Size or Serial number is your current Loader ? Have a TC 30 with the 7308 loader on it , so just curious ???



Rick : Are parts cheaper for the LS series Boomer than the older TC's like mine a 2003 TC 30 ????



Fred H

Not ignoring you, ust away from the store for the weekend.

 

[MiserableOldFart]

I have the 12LA loader. It's a good loader and pretty strong, but would like something quite a bit stronger, wider for more snow and able to handle bigger loads of rocks and gravel. Unfortunately, loader size pretty much is linear with the tractors for the most part, though Kubotas tend to be a little lighter and Mahindras a little heavier. Would love to go up to an only slight larger tractor that could handle 2000 pounds in the loader, but does not exist..

This is all assuming that the numbers that the manufacturers give are accurate and apples-to-apples, which is not guaranteed, but it appears I'd have to go to something like a 42 hp Kubota to get the loader capacity I could get out of a 35 hp NH. But the 35 hp NH is really too big physically for what I need in other respects, i.e. mowing. The largest Kubota B series tractors don't have much more loader capacity than my TC26DA. A 32 Hp L series, does, but it's a much bigger tractor. And to get a stronger loader still, you'd have to go up a couple more notches on the hp scale.

Looking at the numbers now, it does appear that the Kubota L series loaders are pretty close to the comparable NH numbers. It's just the B series that is a little light.

 

[RickB]

I have the 12LA loader. It's a good loader and pretty strong, but would like something quite a bit stronger, wider for more snow and able to handle bigger loads of rocks and gravel. Unfortunately, loader size pretty much is linear with the tractors for the most part, though Kubotas tend to be a little lighter and Mahindras a little heavier. Would love to go up to an only slight larger tractor that could handle 2000 pounds in the loader, but does not exist..

This is all assuming that the numbers that the manufacturers give are accurate and apples-to-apples, which is not guaranteed, but it appears I'd have to go to something like a 42 hp Kubota to get the loader capacity I could get out of a 35 hp NH. But the 35 hp NH is really too big physically for what I need in other respects, i.e. mowing. The largest Kubota B series tractors don't have much more loader capacity than my TC26DA. A 32 Hp L series, does, but it's a much bigger tractor. And to get a stronger loader still, you'd have to go up a couple more notches on the hp scale.

Looking at the numbers now, it does appear that the Kubota L series loaders are pretty close to the comparable NH numbers. It's just the B series that is a little light.

Loader capacity is tied to front axle capacity and by default, chassis size. Can't be busting up front end components because we hung a strong loader over a small axle.

 

[the old grind]

I just bought a NH T1520 HST (35 eng, 28 PTO) with 110TL FEL & 'filled' R-4s to replace my '90s 1520 with 7308 FEL & unfilled turfs. Weight bare (w/o FEL & rim-guard) is about the same as my oldie & the TC30 (~2200lb), tho' 1.7 liter power is just above the TC30's 1.5L. None of these will lift nearly 2k lbs very high, if at all, and the larger T1530 weighs nearly 1k more with or without filled tires. 'LS' Boomers seem to have slightly more powerful loaders than Shibaura Ts & TCs, but not by 10% or anything.

Anyway, I might not mow with something even this size without expecting ruts to appear along edges where it'd track nearly the same every time. IMO there's not much out there with the lift power you'd like and that would mow nice enough, but that depends a lot on what & where you'd be mowing. Trying to do both well with the same tractor could leave a guy dissatisfied doing either job.