Neighbor called the Law on me for shooting

[J F]

Good thought.

 

[twotater]

Keep shooting and as much as you can. I had one of those neighbors and he finally gave up when he saw that I wasn't doing any harm and the law wasn't going to do anything more. The officers will also get use to the calls and you might make some good friends.

 

[J F]

Did it really take you 7 years to post again? Most patient man ever. :thumbsup:

 

[Dat2kman]

Have read through this thread, i live a heck of a way away, ( Australia ! ) we have here the most restrictive gun control laws, it aint worth bothering with trying to get a gun.
The ones that do, have them buried inside a bit of thick wall pladtic tubing, and hidden underground.

That doesnt mean our neighbours wont complain, they do, i am the last in a line of acreage properties, and on my eadtern boundary i now have, due to urban development, around 15 new neighbours, over the last 15-20 years.
I dont shoot no more, but, i got piles and piles of scrub bush and loose forest trash, and when the wind is blowing mostly from the west, i let these piles alight, and will feed them for a day or so.
They used to complain, but dont nowadays!

Wenow got this "carbon tax" and all these tree hugging greeny types say you cant burn off your trash.

I just keep on burnin!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I would not have given my id, explaining that i was doing nothing wrong and was on my property. that if my id was needed a warrent would be needed.

In my state, refusing to provide valid ID to a law enforcement officer is a crime, and they will haul you to jail and fingerprint you to establish your ID. No warrant needed, because you commit the crime right in front of the officer.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Noise pollution is noise pollution regardless of the source. The world is getting more cramped for space between people/farms/industries, and the noises they make, decade by decade.

We had a similar case of new homes surrounding a long-established shooting range in southern Maine. That's a tough issue in my mind, but it is created by more and more people with conflicting needs.

The bottom line for me, is there is no inherent right to spread pollution beyond one's property lines. Noise is just another type of pollution.

I think it's good to be thoughtful of others. I don't use my chainsaw on weekends, early mornings or evenings near some neighbors at one corner of my property. I can't stop the chainsaw noise, but I can make it less bothersome.

Good point. The pollution that really turns my crank is light pollution. If people want to put up yard lights, they need to design them so they don't shine my direction. They don't have a right to spoil my night with light bulbs.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I think you do have a property right to be largely free of nuisance noise. To me, it's really no different than a neighbor who dumps their trash on your land, lets their animals roam your land, allows their weed killer spray to drift onto your garden, or whatever. Your property is being infringed upon.

I don't know where else logically, other than property rights, a distinction can be made as to where your rights end and a neighbor's begins.

In both the city and country, what constitutes nuisance noise depends on time of day, and sometimes what day it is. When my neighbor opened a quarry, his permit specified that he could not operate the crusher or heavy equipment after 7 pm or before 6 am, and never on Sundays. The quarry shots were neighborhood events, busting out 50,000 cubic yards of rock at a time and doing their best to shatter it to get better production out of the crusher.

When I host shooting parties, I always call all the neighbors to let them know in advance. They don't want their cattle, horses or equipment shot up. Knowing where the shooting is and that someone is acting as range master (me!) lets them relax. Bullets always have the potential to cross property lines. Even though typical lots in my area are over 100 hilly acres, I figure it's just good manners to let them know.

 

[bcp]

In my state, refusing to provide valid ID to a law enforcement officer is a crime, and they will haul you to jail and fingerprint you to establish your ID. No warrant needed, because you commit the crime right in front of the officer.

I think that is just when driving. I don't think any state can require an "identification card" on demand, since they can't require possession of an ID card at all, unless driving. You may be required to identify yourself by name, though.

Here is what ACLU says about Oregon.

Know Your Rights -- Your Rights in Oregon | ACLU of Oregon

"If you are approached by state or local police and you are NOT driving a car …"

"The police will ask you to identify yourself. It is not illegal in Oregon to refuse to identify yourself; but you should never give the police false identification information."

More reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

Bruce

 

[creekbend]

I think that is just when driving. I don't think any state can require an "identification card" on demand, since they can't require possession of an ID card at all, unless driving. You may be required to identify yourself by name, though.

Here is what ACLU says about Oregon.

Know Your Rights -- Your Rights in Oregon | ACLU of Oregon

"If you are approached by state or local police and you are NOT driving a car …"

"The police will ask you to identify yourself. It is not illegal in Oregon to refuse to identify yourself; but you should never give the police false identification information."

More reading:
Stop and identify statutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bruce

Thanks for posting.

 

[JackieN]

WOW i have been watching this thread for a few days now,and so far I have one thing figured out,WERE ALL IDIOTS, just kidding, I even saw the post from the guy down under where they lost their rights to own a gun,how would you like to run into a brown snake (THE MOST DEADLIEST SNAKE IN THE WORLD) amd not be able to kill it, this is simple we have to dam many people trying to change things,if you live in the country,most likely your going to own a gun,and people moving their get use to it! this is what I used mine for the other day,I swear and said it before,that it needs to be stated in your mortgage papers,your neighbors may own guns,or where I live everyone has them their in our cars our farm tractors and no one pays attention to them.and if you get into a fight you just get you nose punched thats all, **** our cops know we have them,it's no big deal,and I am thankful that I can still walk into a gun shop and by one any time I want,and a right I never want to lose, so if your neighbors are selling their homes,make sure they tell who ever buys the property that gun owners are your neighbors,I swear I could go on forever,but I"ll never give up my guns or the right to own one,and thats where our country is going,never trust a politician!!!