Ford says no to Diesel F-150

   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #51  
The EcoBoost is already DI. So is the GM 4.3.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #52  
The EcoBoost is already DI. So is the GM 4.3.

Yes, but the 3.7L is not. I don't expect to see 30 out of the EcoBoost, but the 3.7 (or whatever they replace it with). I'm not saying every F150 will get the great fuel economy numbers I'm mentioning. I'm proposing that at least 1 version of the F150 will.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #53  
You must know some new math or something? Gas here today is $3.69 and diesel is $3.99. Say the gas truck gets 21 like Ford claims for the Eco Boost that works out to $.175 per mile. The diesel getting 25 mpg is running $16 per mile. In 100,000 miles the gas truck cost $17,571 to fuel. The diesel $16,000 to fuel, a savings of roughly $1,500. Now take in to account the $3000 up charge for the diesl which will be mor like $6,000 real world and you are looking at a 10 to 20 year payback all things being equal.

Chris

No special math. Diesel is currently cheaper here than gasoline. My point of the previous post, was that our diesels exceed the epa numbers, while the gassers fall well short of them. That has been my experience.

As for these motors being underpowered, I'm not sure how 400 ft.lbs just off idle combined with an 8 speed tranny will be anything but a blast to drive.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #54  
When comparing operating cost, you also need to include the residual value. When you sell it, the diesel will be worth more than the gas so you will recoup some of the additional purchase price. It will still take close to 100000 miles, but you will break even.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #55  
Wish Toyota would buy VW's 2.0 liter turbo diesel and slap it into the body of a 1995-1999 Tacoma. I'd have a peppy pickup that would get about 45 mpg.

Don't know when the smaller truck manufacturers are going to give us some diesels again. A Ford F-150 should do fine with about a 2.5-3.0 liter turbo diesel in it.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #56  
I will not have another diesel period. I have had 4 and still have one. None have been problematic but it looms over your head knowing a repair can run $10000.

The gas engines are just too good now days. Even the 6.0 in the GM's HD trucks does a good job for most.

Chris

Actually gas engines have made more sense to me for quite a while except for the towing aspect. Now they are gaining ground in that too. I don't know what I will do when I buy my next rig.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #57  
I love my Passat TDi and would love to have a diesel pickup. I want a truck with great MPG not just average. I almost bought a Toureg TDI for its 28MPG and towing capability. I am getting 45MPG in my car and no reason a diesel pickup could not get over 30 and have plenty of power too.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #58  
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #59  
Wish Toyota would buy VW's 2.0 liter turbo diesel and slap it into the body of a 1995-1999 Tacoma. I'd have a peppy pickup that would get about 45 mpg.

Don't know when the smaller truck manufacturers are going to give us some diesels again. A Ford F-150 should do fine with about a 2.5-3.0 liter turbo diesel in it.

Toyota has their own turbo diesels already, and have had them for decades. A Hilux with a turbo 4 is a wonderful thing to drive, and knocks down high twenties easily.
 
   / Ford says no to Diesel F-150 #60  
Toyota has their own turbo diesels already, and have had them for decades. A Hilux with a turbo 4 is a wonderful thing to drive, and knocks down high twenties easily.
I drove a 2.0L turbo diesel Corolla in Argentina. Had a 5 speed stick and was a blast to drive.

Aaron Z
 

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