LS thread topics a bit boring

[DK35vince]

Talk up your new, low hour LS machines all you want.
Meanwhile I will continue to run my Kioti that has been problem free for the past 12 years and 1800 hours.

 

[Gary Fowler]

They have only been out a couple years and none have the amount of hours to have problems.

Couple of years? Mine is a 2010 and I am sure I didn't buy the first one out. They have been making tractors since the early 90's with original deal with New Holland and selling them all over the world, just not in the USA. There are thousands of LS tractors sold each year now in the USA since now more and more dealers are picking up the line. As for NH, I can tell you why they shunned the LS with a NH brand. They are pissed that one can buy the same tractor for less (thousands less) by going to LS dealer. Most savvy tractor buyers realize that and do just that which deprives NH of sales. I am sure this was a factor in NH moving back to Shibaura for their choice of mfg. for their CUT's because there is no competition with their product (at least in the states).
Just because a company has been around for 100 years no longer means quality as most of the USA companies now source to the lowest bidder overseas and try to maintain their rep as a USA high quality supplier when in reality they are selling the same product, made in the same place that others are selling at discounted rates but they still inflate their prices just like they did when selling a "good USA MADE" product.
I have no problem with you bleed (pick your color) guys paying thru the nose to get your favorite color, but stop trying to make folks think you are doing it because they are better (whatevers) than the new to market in the USA brands. I remember well when Kubota, Kioti, Yanmar started selling in the states and everyone called them cheap foreign imitations but bought them anyway. The foreign invasion is now the reason that everything is globally sourced and just about everything now is equal quality wise but not always cost wise.

 

[DK35vince]

Well Gary,
Have you read your own post.
I have no problem with LS
But It is you and TSO on this thread that are implying that your brand is better than mine.
You are doing the very same thing that you are complaining about others doing.

 

[Agent Blue]

BLIND loyalty has nothing to do with it. It's economics. I don't hold tractors for twenty years. I like to update and really buy what costs less in repairs and brings cash at sale time. John Deere is king. I never have trouble selling a Deere.. and no repairs in five years. Many off brands are advertised month after month at deep discounts. Besides this Even though Deere and New Holland are assembled with global parts they still represent America. You can have your Prius and $8000. battery. Put a foreign flag in the rear window. I spent 14 months fighting with the marines over seas. As for old Corvettes .... the early 60s cars are heavily sought for their looks, resale, classic lines, and horse power. I have three and darn proud to own them. They are as american as apple pie and baseball.

 

[joemd11]

I was out mowing with my R3039 yesterday and had a great time. I'm at 180hrs now and no major problems. One small problem keeps popping up.
For some reason, I am bending the right stabilizer bar where it attaches to the axle housing. It happens when using the flail mower (it is offset to the right) and it is always the right stabilizer. Don't know if I am not adjusting the stabilizer slack properly or some other operator error.

 

[rwork]

Talk up your new, low hour LS machines all you want.
Meanwhile I will continue to run my Kioti that has been problem free for the past 12 years and 1800 hours.

Well of course we will! ...If we're happy with our machines, and are not having any problems, why wouldn't we "talk them up"?
I don't recall anyone saying that Kioti or any other tractor wasn't as good, just that we're happy with our choice.
I've got a 30 year old Kubota with 2000 hrs, and its been trouble free as well. I would have likely bought a Kioti CK35 had the dealer not been so far away, and I felt both the LS and Kioti were both comparible machines.

I certainly hope that I get the same service out of my LS, that you're Kioti is giving you. No reason it shouldn't.

So no, I might not have the time that you've got on yours, but that's not going to keep me from sharing my satisfaction with others here.

 

[houstonscott]

They said the same stuff about Kubota when they came onto the scene. Tough for someone who thought they had it all figured out and then someone sets an LS in front of them, and they have to explain how this could be. It's amazing what modern designs with modern cutting edge assembly can achieve over sit on your laurels old management turns out. Ask your self why you have a Samsung phone, or refrigerator, or drive a Kia or Hyundai, or watch on a Samsung TV. It's happening in tractors too. Dr Deming was right and if those other guys like the American auto industry found out will be out of business in twenty years if they don't get with it, it's easy to see, I saw it happen in cars, electronics, appliances, and it can and will happen in AG equipment if we sit on laurels. JD better pray LS doesn't sit down and decide to build a combine. Look at how the size of Kubota's are growing. It's just time now.

HS

 

[murphy1244]

BLIND loyalty has nothing to do with it. It's economics. I don't hold tractors for twenty years. I like to update and really buy what costs less in repairs and brings cash at sale time. John Deere is king. I never have trouble selling a Deere.. and no repairs in five years. Many off brands are advertised month after month at deep discounts. Besides this Even though Deere and New Holland are assembled with global parts they still represent America. You can have your Prius and $8000. battery. Put a foreign flag in the rear window. I spent 14 months fighting with the marines over seas. As for old Corvettes .... the early 60s cars are heavily sought for their looks, resale, classic lines, and horse power. I have three and darn proud to own them. They are as american as apple pie and baseball.

The problem with Deere is you have to pay 10,000 more to get back 8,000 more. and they have the same problems the rest of them do just more dealers to take it too.

 

[DK35vince]

Well of course we will! ...If we're happy with our machines, and are not having any problems, why wouldn't we "talk them up"?
I don't recall anyone saying that Kioti or any other tractor wasn't as good, just that we're happy with our choice.
I've got a 30 year old Kubota with 2000 hrs, and its been trouble free as well. I would have likely bought a Kioti CK35 had the dealer not been so far away, and I felt both the LS and Kioti were both comparible machines.

I certainly hope that I get the same service out of my LS, that you're Kioti is giving you. No reason it shouldn't.

So no, I might not have the time that you've got on yours, but that's not going to keep me from sharing my satisfaction with others here.

Talking your machine up because they work well is fine. I like to read about that and hope they continue to work well for many years.
But we have several members on this forum, (certain owners from every color) that feels they need to cut all the other brands down to do it .
I find that offensive and annoying

 

[houstonscott]

Agent Blue


Just remember your Chevrolet company that built those cars went out of business in 2009. It's gone forever.

HS