Massey 65 field find -- going to try and get her running and working

[Cecil Stults]

Ok I did not see that you already had it running. Never mind my 2cents.

 

[The kid]

Nice find. A really nice find. I'm sure you should be able to find sheet metal for it in the many salvage yards throughout the U.S. Try to salvage that seat base. They are very rare option not many bought. Who ever put it in the barn must have run it out of gas before abandonment. Good thing too. Round yourself up a service manual and dig in. Keep us posted on your progress. -kid

 

[GPintheMitten]

That "dried up" hydraulic oil looks like dirt and dust collected on the oil. I would power wash it. If you feel like it, scrape some of the sludge off first, then power wash it, being careful not to get water inside where it doesn't belong.

And if me, I'ld focus on all mechanical systems before worring too much about paint or seat. Heck, just put on old pillow under your butt for awhile.

 

[PorkChopsMmm]

Thanks for the help, guys. I hesitated when writing the subject as a field find... it is the benevolence of my friend to "donate" this tractor to me. I am going to sell my 8N to pay him back once this is up and running and reliable for winter (hopefully I can get it to that point before the snow hits).

I purchased the owners manual -- lots of good info in there. Thanks for the advice on power washing. I live out on some beautiful acreage and don't want to get too much of this gunk all over my ground so I will try to scrape it first. We have a septic system so I really try to limit what goes down a drain here.

Actually, that leads me to a good question, when you guys scrape off paint, power wash, etc. do you just let the oil and gunk go to the ground or do you try to keep everything limited to a certain area?

 

[aczlan]

When you pick it up, take it to the local carwash on the way home. $5 and all the oil does down their drain and into their oil/water separator.

Aaron Z

 

[GPintheMitten]

Thanks for the help, guys. I hesitated when writing the subject as a field find... it is the benevolence of my friend to "donate" this tractor to me. I am going to sell my 8N to pay him back once this is up and running and reliable for winter (hopefully I can get it to that point before the snow hits).

I purchased the owners manual -- lots of good info in there. Thanks for the advice on power washing. I live out on some beautiful acreage and don't want to get too much of this gunk all over my ground so I will try to scrape it first. We have a septic system so I really try to limit what goes down a drain here.

Actually, that leads me to a good question, when you guys scrape off paint, power wash, etc. do you just let the oil and gunk go to the ground or do you try to keep everything limited to a certain area?

Good to pay your friend something after you sell your 8N. I suspect after his wife died, he just isn't motivated. You might try and help him around his place instead of or in addition to money.

Good advice on stopping at a car wash on the way home.

I power wash stuff away from the well head, but I don't typically have a lot of oilly stuff when washing. I don't pour old oil on the ground but I'm not too worried about an oily film when washing.

 

[PorkChopsMmm]

Good call on the carwash -- I didn't even think of that! Agreed GP, thanks.

 

[PorkChopsMmm]

This won't be happening for a while if ever. Rented the trailer for $68 this past Friday. They hooked up the trailer and all connections and off we drove. Got the tractor loaded up and drove off -- the trailer disconnected from the hitch (it is likely it was never latch on to the ball fully) 1/2 mile down the road and nearly flipped the vehicle we were in. Went into the oncoming lane of traffic and rolled the trailer with the tractor on it. Luckily no one was hurt.

The tractor has loader frame damage, and least one of the front spindles is bent, and the radiator, air filter are shot, and steering wheel. What concerns me the most is the bent loader frame -- I'm not sure how you can fix that.

Surprisingly the trailer just had dented fenders and was in good shape. They flipped it and drove it back to the rental shop.

 

[The kid]

That is crazy. Amazing no one was hurt. Wish you well with your near miss recovery. Bummer on the tractor. I see an insurance battle on the horizon. Good luck.

 

[LiveRoll]

I'd hate to say it, but perhaps loading the tractor backwards onto the trailer may have saved you, it looks like the majority of the weight is behind the rear trailer axle and may have actually been lifting on the trailer hitch as you were pulling it. I always always back my medium weight tractors onto the trailer to put some weight onto the trailer. Thankfully no one got hurt, it could have been a terrible wreck.

Cheers

Roger

 

[aczlan]

OUCH. I agree with LiveRoll that it looks like it could have used more tongue weight, I would have also tried to chain to the front axle (vs the loader) and get the chains going as close to a 45 in each direction (up/down and left/right in relation to the tractor) as possible

Aaron Z

 

[Cromagnum]

That looked exciting, and painful. Glad no one was hurt.

I rented a u-haul car trailer ($70) to pull my 2135 tractor home last month.

 

[TomSeller]

OUCH. I agree with LiveRoll that it looks like it could have used more tongue weight, I would have also tried to chain to the front axle (vs the loader) and get the chains going as close to a 45 in each direction (up/down and left/right in relation to the tractor) as possible

Aaron Z

Yeah, I like to back a loader tractor onto a trailer to get more weight on the truck. Upwards play on the hitch is dangerous. I also like to chain the axles with 4 SEPARATE binders. The load can't shift as much that way. Also tie the binder levers down just in case. Better safe than sorry.

 

[namyessam]

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Yeah, I like to back a loader tractor onto a trailer to get more weight on the truck. Upwards play on the hitch is dangerous. I also like to chain the axles with 4 SEPARATE binders. The load can't shift as much that way. Also tie the binder levers down just in case. Better safe than sorry.

Tie them down like this. I have read that many DOT,s have been cracking down on collectors hauling their tractors to shows and not having them properly secured with 4 separate chains. I know it's hard to see but note the ends of the binder handles are wired down to prevent them from coming loose. As eveyone else has said, Thankfully no one got hurt, It could have been alot worse.

 

[murphy1244]

That Tractor was not loaded right. You took the weight off the Hitch. Glad you lived thru it.

 

[aczlan]

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Tie them down like this. I have read that many DOT,s have been cracking down on collectors hauling their tractors to shows and not having them properly secured with 4 separate chains. I know it's hard to see but note the ends of the binder handles are wired down to prevent them from coming loose. As eveyone else has said, Thankfully no one got hurt, It could have been alot worse.

Excellent example.

Aaron Z

 

[namyessam]

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Tie them down like this. I have read that many DOT,s have been cracking down on collectors hauling their tractors to shows and not having them properly secured with 4 separate chains. I know it's hard to see but note the ends of the binder handles are wired down to prevent them from coming loose. As eveyone else has said, Thankfully no one got hurt, It could have been alot worse.

Here's another little trick I learned from someone that hauled alot of machinery. If your trailer has stake pockets, drop the end of the chain through the pocket and bring it around the top and hook it to the top of the pocket and not just hooked to the bottom of the pocket. If the chain comes loose for some reason the hook still stays fastened and doesn't just come unhooked from the trailer. It may be loose but its still better than not fastened. If you zoom up on this picture it is a better image of the binder handle wired down to prevent it from coming loose.
namyessam

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Thanks for sharing your learning experience.

I hauled our 265 MF with a very heavy bushhog mounted 15 miles to get it home with negative tongue and I never plan to do that again.

It was a heavy homemade backhoe trailer so I could not load it backwards so I drove like 35 MPH. It had the pintle hitch and I was towing with the F700 16' flat dump that is rated for 23,000 pounds so that helped.

 

[k0ua]

Here's another little trick I learned from someone that hauled alot of machinery. If your trailer has stake pockets, drop the end of the chain through the pocket and bring it around the top and hook it to the top of the pocket and not just hooked to the bottom of the pocket. If the chain comes loose for some reason the hook still stays fastened and doesn't just come unhooked from the trailer. It may be loose but its still better than not fastened. If you zoom up on this picture it is a better image of the binder handle wired down to prevent it from coming loose.
namyessam

Thanks for posting, I have learned some things here.

James K0UA

 

[TomSeller]

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Tie them down like this. I have read that many DOT,s have been cracking down on collectors hauling their tractors to shows and not having them properly secured with 4 separate chains. I know it's hard to see but note the ends of the binder handles are wired down to prevent them from coming loose. As eveyone else has said, Thankfully no one got hurt, It could have been alot worse.

Great pictures and exactly as I was talking about. Some people use one chain/binder on the rear and one up front. Your load often can slip sideways on you that way. People need to pull it exactly as you show, in four separate directions at as close to 45 degrees as possible. I use twine but stiff wire is perfect to hold the levers down. You don't often see truckers do that, but to a non professional hauler it can save you if your hook up slips and all of a sudden you have slack and the handle rotates down on a bumpy road. Also, one more VERY important point. After latching up, drive a few miles, pull over and re-tighten if necessary. The chains will have moved a little where you hitched sometimes. Every time I stop I recheck my binders.